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  1. #35
    Women are easier to catch an STD than men, but if you turn to their service frequently - it is not going to be a happy end.

  2. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Porn Guy
    The risk to anyones health is the girls that suck without or no condom by providing a BBBJ or even worst that wonderful BBBJTC or the best one yet BBBJTCWS.

    Girls getting tested. OMFG. This thread is one funny thread.

    Any girl that allows men to dump their loads into their mouths or any girls that drink those loads, I would think twice about doing any DATY with any of them, you might as well take the loads yourself.

    Anything she has would be a serious risk at that point and I keep my lips sealed with any escort that provides that kind of a service such as anything bare back.
    I play it super-safe and I have still had an occaisional "problem", these guys doing DATY & DFK e. T. C. Should play the %&#* lottery, they are the luckiest in the world if you can do that with some of these public toilet-grade girls out there.

  3. #33

    BBBJ & amp; testing.

    The risk to anyones health is the girls that suck without or no condom by providing a BBBJ or even worst that wonderful BBBJTC or the best one yet BBBJTCWS.

    Girls getting tested. OMFG. This thread is one funny thread.

    Any girl that allows men to dump their loads into their mouths or any girls that drink those loads, I would think twice about doing any DATY with any of them, you might as well take the loads yourself.

    Anything she has would be a serious risk at that point and I keep my lips sealed with any escort that provides that kind of a service such as anything bare back.

  4. #32

    Like it or not DH is 100% correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by DH
    There is absolutely, flat ass, positively no testing of the girls at managements' behest in any of the clubs in Buenos Aires. Period, end of story. No animosity involved but you are living in a dream world. Even in places where there is testing, like Mexico, number one the doctors can be bribed, and number two anyone with a "BS" in biology would know that the concept of an incubation period renders the testing meaningless in terms of providing any assurance of safety.
    Like it or not DH is 100% correct. Anyone else living in a the dream world that these girls are like the places in Las Vegas which even those tests can be paid for is just living in one big dream world. BA girls getting tested, I almost dropped my laptop on my floor I am laughing so hard.

  5. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbutt
    Is there a "clean club" anywhere?
    Check out the YWCA.

  6. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Badboy13
    Well after reading some of the more articulate and well intentioned comments, I think it's safe to say that BA is a little dirtier than I thought,

    Well any helpful comments are allways appreciated, thanks for all the good info, I guess there is no such thing as a TOP NOTCH CLEAN club in BA.

    Damn it back to plan be, get out the double wrap.

    Badboy
    Is there a "clean club" anywhere?

  7. #29
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    Reality Check

    Well after reading some of the more articulate and well intentioned comments, I think it's safe to say that BA is a little dirtier than I thought,

    Well any helpful comments are allways appreciated, thanks for all the good info, I guess there is no such thing as a TOP NOTCH CLEAN club in BA.

    Damn it back to plan B, get out the double wrap.

    Badboy

  8. #28
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    Posts: 1657

    Settle Down Now Bro

    Let's not get personal, I think talking about peoples families is crossing the line, Please refrain from mentioning my family. If you want to start the name calling then call me a know it all if you want but dont bring fam into it.

    I am by no means a wealthy punter, like some on here profess, And my family is in the medical business, which I added because this is a medical related topic, and I had some insight on the topic, thats all, have some respect man.

    And after reading your somewhat comical characterization of my fictitious conversation with some BA club owner, I can see that it was a little naive on my part to think I would get a straight answer from him or the betty.

    It is still possible to find out about these things, and as I said in previous posts, it is common practice in some countries and in some clubs.

    But I will have to figure out the scene for myself I guess, since all I'm getting is sarchasm on this thread.

    If you have some first hand info on the questions I asked bro, let me know,

    Happy Hoe Hunting.

    BadBoy

  9. #27
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    Posts: 1657

    Dick

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead
    There is absolutely, flat ass, positively no testing of the girls at managements' behest in any of the clubs in Buenos Aires. Period, end of story. The concept of an incubation period renders the testing meaningless in terms of providing any assurance of safety.
    Thanks again for the comment Dick, I respect your opinoions, just as long as you understand thats what they are, your opinions, just like mine or anyone elses.

    If you want to talk about incubation period then talk about it. You are right that it depends on the type of contact and route of infection, wether it was mucosal or through blood, and so on, and its true that a mucosal infection would take many weeks to start the seroconversion cycle. But you need to know that once the seroconversion process starts the H. I. V DNA can be isolated through HIV RNA AND PCR testing, thats polymerase chain reaction testing, so you need to understand the incubation period is more like 1 - 4 weeks depending on route of infection. It seems like alot of the information you are talkin about is very old. All internists know that not only can they catch HIV within weeks of infection, that it is possible, in some cases (within 24 hrs) to stop the virus from ever attacking CD4 cells, most comonly known as T-cells, with the use of a combination of PI's (protease inhibitors) and the latest NNRTI's and NRTI's, which is by no means a cure but it can block the infection before it has a chance to attach and replicate.

    So that is why they test either once a month or twice, so it is a very effective method, not 100% , as nothing is, but very effective.

    And it's not about structure, do you think there is real structure in the san fernando valley porn scene? Please, but they are doing voluntary testing so as to reduce the risk, not eliminate, but reduce, and take note that the last outbreak of HIV in the totally voluntary SFV porn scene was due to a guy from Evil Angel going to film in Brazil, and he came back and tested within days and the seroconversion hadn't started, so the test was negative, he tested two weeks later and the test caught the infection. In those two weeks he infected a handful of people, imagine if he wouldn't have retested for months? Yes Doc's can be bribed and I have heard that in Brazil it is common practice. But I don't think BA is Brazil, And note I am not talking about Elisa testing or the more commonly used western blot method. You say I'm dreaming, lets be realistic man, the reason SFV implemented voluntary testing was so the state government wouldn't make it a law, it will happen here to, and in my opinion the sooner the better.

    But anyways DickHead, hope if anything, this was a little insightful and you are welcome to check out everything I have said.

    Thank you for all your friendly comments, I have read some of your posts and find a few very informative, keep up the good work,

    And to all you old school mongers, thanks for paving the way for the new school punters in BA, just don't think we are stepping on anyones toes, if we have opinions. I for one really appreciate all the helpful information I am getting from this website,.

    Ok now back to checking the review, and since I have your attention DickHead, what can you tell me about Abigail from Platynum? I can't wait to have fun with that betty, have you been? Are the pics real?

    Peace.

    Badboy

  10. #26
    I envision this type of a conversation:

    Know It All Monger From Wealthy Family That Owns Medical Clinics All Over The World (henceforth abbreviated as BB) upon entering "upscale, top notch" club such as Black or Oba Oba: "Excuse me, Mr. Manager, do you test your workers for STDs?"

    Seventh Grade Drop Out Mafioso Manager Whose Father-In-Law Owns Club (henceforth abbreviated as Boludo): "Yes sir; whatever you say."

    [Boludo to chica who speaks six more words of English than he does: "WTF is an STD?" Chica: I think it's a new energy drink you mix with vodka. Or it's Ecstasy mixed with cocaine.]

    BB: "Great! Now I can spend 200 or 300 or 400 US Dollars! Thanks so much for the information!"

    Boludo: [ROTFLHMFAO]

    Later: BB meets "top notch, high end, upscale, executive level" prostitute (henceforth abbreviated as Ho) "Excuse me, I'd like to buy you a drink. When was your last STD test?"

    Ho: "Five minutes ago mi amor. My place or yours?"

    BB: "You are a true professional. I admire how you care for yourself, unlike a street girl who fucks 10 guys a day for fifty pesos and can't afford such testing, even though that equates to 10 x 50 x 365 = 182,500 pesos a year which is more than twice what the president of Argentina earns."

    Ho: "Thank you so much for the compliment, sir. That will be 930 pesos, paid in advance, and I don't kiss on the lips or perform fellatio without a condom or really do much of anything except lie there since I am such an upscale escort."

    BB: "Super! Here's 1000 pesos and my address. I'll go home and shower and put FarmEx all over my body and I hope to see you soon."

  11. #25
    BB13: Managers of clubs are not very reliable sources of information and will probably tell you what you want to hear. Good luck on changing the concept of the clubs here in BA. Maybe you could convince them to drop their drink prices as well.

    This topic about STD's has come up again and again. It is a crapshoot, plain and simple. I pointed out once before that a test given today can be worthless after a date that night.

  12. #24
    Badboy13-

    You are correct in that in places like Amsterdam, Hamburg, Canada, and Nevada prostitutes are legal workers and are forced to abide by workplace standards which includes STD tests on a regular basis. Remember prostitution is LEGAL in those places and is REGULATED. In Argentina prostitution is NOT LEGAL and thus NOT REGULATED. Those governments have money and the desire to regulate these sorts of things. The government of Argentina has no way of forcing the girls working in the clubs to take STD tests because, technically, they have no idea that these girls are anything more than clients of the bar. Believe me from experience, ALL SORTS of illegal activity goes on in Buenos Aires and is ignored by the government, and when things go awry in that activity, do not expect the government to assist you. This is part of the "to let alone" unwritten contract the government has with its citizens, as in until something makes a big enough splash that a frenzy is created, the government allows the activity to continue (think Republica Cromagnon and the subsequent regulation on the Buenos Aires nightclub scene, which was 10x more out of control pre Cromagnon) The point is that unless there is a huge AIDS epidemic in Buenos Aires that sparks a public outcry to regulate the putas there will be no mandatory testing of girls in so called "high end" or any other clubs.

    Suerte,

    Dirk Diggler

  13. #23
    There is absolutely, flat ass, positively no testing of the girls at managements' behest in any of the clubs in Buenos Aires. Period, end of story. No animosity involved but you are living in a dream world. Even in places where there is testing, like Mexico, number one the doctors can be bribed, and number two anyone with a "BS" in biology would know that the concept of an incubation period renders the testing meaningless in terms of providing any assurance of safety.

  14. #22
    BB13,

    A word to the wise, save up your comments, advise and proclamations until you get here. You are probably going to find that BA mongering is nothing like what you expected. You seem to think there is alot of "structure" to what goes on here (or should be) There's not, with the exception of every dog trying to have his / her day. Your idea of talking to club management about "testing" would, at best, get you laughed out of there. IMHO. In addition, the lack of structure here is what makes this board so necessary and popular.

  15. #21
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    Posts: 1657

    ok?

    I guess I see now why they call you DICKHEAD, no need for the animosity man, I understand you have been in BA for probably a while, and know the lay out better than alot of people but that doesn't mean you are the end all and neither are your comments, or mine for that matter. So lets all be happy respectful punters here allright.

    I will say again, if I am going to be moving to BA, and not just use it as a place to drop anchor every once in a while then it is important for ME to find a good clean reliable place. And if you really think mandatory testing for girls in high end top notch clubs where they will charge you $100-$200 US is something I dreamed up, or it's not happening allready or not going to be happening soon, you might want to rethink that, not only will it happen whether you or I like it or not, I think its in everyones best interests that it does.

    But who cares, I'm going back to reading online reviews of hot chicks in BA that I would like to pipe.

    Thanks for your comments Dick.

    Happy Hoe Hunting.

    Badboy

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