Offering money for non pro girls

[Mpexy]

I don't know about the getting of non-pros for money, but just asking the local, normal non-pro girls out on dates with the standard guy pays for outing seems to work just fine. No better or no worse than back home in terms of odds, just a lot better attitude in both appreciation of simple courtesies, and a lot nicer when saying no.

[El Perro]

No no no Thomaso. Taking money in exchange for sex doesn't make a woman a prostitute. She may have bills to pay or a sick mother or may not want to work for 600 pesos a month in a laundry or a restaurant. She may have limited education and training and thus few employment options. She may come from a socially disadvantaged background. She may simply want to own more pairs of shoes than she can afford on her salary. She may have made poor life choices and had children when she herself was a child.

In situations like this, accepting money for sex is not prostitution and to say it is indicates a rigid, Anglo Saxon, First World, misogynistic perspective that can only serve to marginalize large segments of the population to the ultimate detriment of social progress.

Think about it.

When did DH hire a ghostwriter!

[Nick Danger]

How come you couldn't strike a conversation with the chica of your choice and tell them that you are visitor and would like a tour of the city? And, you can let her choose the restaurant she wants to eat at. Any money offered is just reimbursement for their time.

Good Luck

[Andres]

Any suggestion for a tactful way to do this Andres?

As anywhere else in the World: Indirect, dodgy comments, double-mean sentences. For instance, telling her that you are doing "a research about what beautiful Argentine women would do for X amount of money" and asking about her opinion, and later for a confirmation of that. She will get it, and if not interested, she will forgive your sassyness due to your "proposal with style".

I would be well dressed to be credible by women. I guess that Argentinas would be more worried about cheating them than to receiving "indecent proposals".

Hope this helps.

Andres

[Moore]

I thought you only had to "vogue" Dirk! Strike the pose, profile, flex, you know. Maybe sign an autograph. Simply show up and the chicas are lining up and spreading their legs.

You mean you actually have to talk (or even lie) to score sometimes too?

[Rock Harders]

Moore-

You bash me on the Kilkenny thread for coming up with an intricate lie to get a non-pro portena in the sack, yet you admit to using this practice yourself? You [Deleted by Admin]!

Suerte-

Dirk

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[Moore]

Any suggestion for a tactful way to do this Andres? I couldnt care less about a slap in the face but I dont want to waste time. Every time I walk out of my apartment I see multiple girls that give me a boner. I believe that Argentine women are much more realistic than US hoggers and understand that at the end of the day they are simply commodities on the open market. So are men. We all are.

I remember offering a girl US100 for an onthespot poke a few months ago. I had already nailed her many times as she had been my girlfriend for a few months. But as usual she realized that I was not a serious bf and cutoff the sex supply. She remained a friend though, which is common for argentinas but not so common with the US sloths.

We were in my apartment where we had shagged many times, but previously she had clearly told me that my sex with her was over. She's nice - a bringhometomom type and was a great fuck to boot. My monetary offer did not go over well. Crash, burn, suffer, and die. I like this girl and repaired the damage with dinners, promises, and lies (what hypocrisy?).

100US is a months salary for her. I would have done it for 1 day's salary, but testosterone/"self-respect" is/isnt a factor for a male. I'm pretty good at lying and unfortunately that seems to be the most valuable currency for acquiring nonpro poontang. Cash sure would be a lot easier, more honest (and cheaper).

[Andres]

Ok Thomasso, this post was much more useful!

Of course I don't want exact estimations, but what I wanted was to know if there is a real chance for doing that in Argentina.

There is a chance as in any other poor country in the World. However, it depends on the social condition of the girl, her education and their current needs of that particular time, so it is useless to tell you "there is a 25/50/75% chance of succeeeding". It applies on a case-by-case basis. You may get a smile or a slap in your face.

Andres

[Balul]

Ok Thomasso, this post was much more useful!

Of course I don't want exact estimations, but what I wanted was to know if there is a real chance for doing that in Argentina. For example, I can tell you that in Paraguay there is a good chance to score with a non pro girl for 150$ (the average salary) because they have problems to finish the month and 150$ can make their life better for a long time. On the contrary, in Israel it won't help you to offer money to girls, even if it's more than the average salary, because the level of life is good and girls are not desperate for money.

After your last post, I can understand that in Argentina the chances are low, so I won't humiliate myself by trying to seduce girls with money. This is exactly the info I wanted, and now I thank you without being cynical.

[Thomaso276]

Dickhead: Just because the Olympics allows pros to play now doesn't mean I didn't like the old system of amatuers only!

What social progress? We are all animals!

Welcome back. Tom

[Thomaso276]

I recently posted invaluable info on getting a DNI, residency info with a link for government page on what papers you need. I always reply correctly to questions that can be answered. Questions that cannot be answered, except by the writer himself, are a different story.

How about this: On my last visit to So. America I paid a cashier for an afternoon tryst, making her a semi-pro. I really enjoyed this aspect of mongering. Anyone else have a similar experience in Buenos Aires? Or would I be spinning my wheels and getting face slapped if I propositioned waitresses and cashiers with offers to have sex for money?

My response would have been: stick with the clubs and escorts, your chances are very limited or non-existent with non-pros. Asking for odds, and prices will result in you receiving innaccurate information from some poster who may exaggerate or inflate his experience. Cashiers and waitresses are not part of the equation in the sex for pay formula here.

If someone tells you the odds are 1 in 4 that you will score with a non-pro for 100 pesos their answer is more bogus than mine. Because the answer could be taken are accurate and you will base future decisions or hopes on bad info. My answer is obviously bogus and clearly answers that what is being asked cannot be accomplished easily, or at all. The 1 in 4 answer screams for verification and proof, something that few posters can or will provide.

Would you have felt better if I told you that many cashiers here will provide sex for 75 pesos per hour and you have a 50% chance of scoring everytime you approach one? Up until this point I am sure someone would have told you it is very possible. Let them prove it.

On the other hand it is not hard to prove sex for pay with pros and clubs. Thousands of experiences have been posted here with common themes and verifiable data (just go to the same club and ask Maria if she will leave for 150 pesos and hour) I have lived here for 3 years. BA is a pro scene, I don't care what anyone else says about their "regular girl" conquests. Most of that is BS and cannot be proven one way or the other.

Good Luck.

[Dickhead]

No no no Thomaso. Taking money in exchange for sex doesn't make a woman a prostitute. She may have bills to pay or a sick mother or may not want to work for 600 pesos a month in a laundry or a restaurant. She may have limited education and training and thus few employment options. She may come from a socially disadvantaged background. She may simply want to own more pairs of shoes than she can afford on her salary. She may have made poor life choices and had children when she herself was a child.

In situations like this, accepting money for sex is not prostitution and to say it is indicates a rigid, Anglo Saxon, First World, misogynistic perspective that can only serve to marginalize large segments of the population to the ultimate detriment of social progress.

Think about it.

[Hunt99]

You know, I always feel better when I pay a non-pro for sex. It makes me a non-monger. I can take the moral high ground!

Thomaso, you are getting crotchety in your dotage. I hope the Packers start winning again this year, if only to help your mood.

[Zappaman]

I agree 100% with Thomaso's "excellent or possibly impossible chance to make the same deal" but I would like to add that it is imperative to have the novio there - so she can consult him about the deal.

As far as the formula goes - make sure you show her your calculations so your both on the same page - otherwise she might get insulted. Also, I typically "square" the result, as I don't speak Spanish.

Zappaman

[Balul]

Thank you very much Thomasso, for your kind and nice answer. I hope that more people will take example from you, stop writing info and opinions and instead writing nonsense posts, this will make this forum so much better!