Buenos Aires Or Santiago?

[Volpone]

THANKS A LOT GUYS. You are great.

That's great to get infos from people, that have been there.

I personnaly had a great time in Lima and I will go back there again.

So I will follow your advice for be. A.

[Hotman 666]

No contest! For mongering B.A. wins "hands down" Santiago does not even get a Silver (or Bronze) medal!

Santiago for seafood (and white wine)

B.A. For the beautiful women, plus the best Beef in the world and excellent red wine.

Enjoy,

Hotman

[Dickhead]

Santiago is an okay place to visit for a few days. There is some mongering to be had. It wouldn't be a place that I personally would go to for mongering, nor would I want to live there. The pollution is more evident to me. Although they have a great subway system, there is no train and the bus system is incomprehensible; no published guide like in BA. The bus drivers get paid per fare so they are constantly jockeying for position. Cabs are quite reasonable. Airport is closer to downtown although not grossly so.

Santiago's got arguably better seafood but overall the restaurant scene is not as good and what is up with all those hot dogs covered with the avocado-mayonaisse mix?

Hotels are a bit higher than BA, but a bit higher average quality. I wouldn't think you'd need to reserve in advance unless it was a holiday weekend or a big convention or something. I never have.

I too have posted on specific mongering aspects. The bottom line, in my opinion: Of all the places I have mongered, Santiago is certainly one of them. Of all the cities I've been to, Santiago is certainly one of them. It doesn't really stand out in any aspect. I've been there five times.

[El Perro]

Thanks for that Moore. Nice synopsis. I looked long and hard at Santiago before coming to BA. Sounds like a nice counterpoint.

[Moore]

I've posted several times about Santiago on various threads where people have asked so I'll recap.

I've travelled to SCL about a half dozen times for 2-4 day business trips. You should know that if you arrive expecting a second BA then you will be disppointed. Doing so would be somewhat like arriving to USA for the first time, spending 6 months living like a king on a US$1000/day budget in central New York, and then making a short side trip to Dallas expecting a carbon copy of NYC. You will be disappointed. BA is somewhat like Paris with a 4:1 Euro/Dollar exchange rate, a huge supply of great pro and amateur women, and a somewhat Mediterranean climate to boot. It's kind of hard not to like it and "holding a candle to it" is also rather difficult especially using a city only 750 miles to the west.

But I also like Dallas and other suburban, relaxed, not-so-worldclass cities. Santiago is like a Denver in South America. It's very clean, organized, prosperous, tame and relaxed yet there is fun to be had. There is some South American style poverty in outskirt areas but nothing like Rio. I advise anyone who is spending substantial time in BA to make a short trip there at some point, possibly for a visa renewal run.

Look at www.sexo.cl as a guide to incall/outcall services. I used agencies/chicas listed on it and was quite satisfied. One thing I quicky noticed is that the girls that arrived to my hotel room were exactly as shown in the photos - can't say the same for BA or other cities and that's mainly why I stopped doing incall in BA. Though a much more conservative society, the Chileans seem to have no problem with prostitution. No problems in my hotel and several people (colleagues, drivers, etc) openly recommended it and/or took me to private apartments. From what I could see there is no expansive p4p boliche network like you find everywhere in Argentina. I tried a place or two in my area (Vitacura) and they resembled upscale US titty bars including upscale prices. The girls were rougher, hardened pro types whereas I had found some genuine fresh university sophomores of pure Spanish extraction on the websites. Cousins in Mendoza, currently doing some artmodeling work and their dad was was a judge and I believe it. There are some sexy women running around SCL, nowhere near as many as in BA but many more than a US city. Many have some indigenous blood but much less than Mexicans. Generally speaking, not as euro-chic as many argentinas but still some good ones and nothing to do with US sloths.

Some colleagues took me out to some cool restaurants and bars in the Vitacura and Las Condes areas IIRC. Again it was more like Dallas than Paris but I liked it. SCL can be a beautiful city on clear days since the gigantic Andes are just behind it. Some of the areas look like they could be a part of Southern California - mountainous, just off the Pacific, temperate, dry, and yes smog sometimes. I went down to the coastal areas of Vina del Mar and Valparaiso once and was not at all impressed except with the scenic drive getting there thru mountains and vinyards. The towns were just dead and not at all appealing when I went in November IIRC. The Pacific there is a sight to see with mountains, cliffs, huge rocks, and extreme currents like in parts of California but that was the only attraction for me. Santiago is higher and drier so it gets quite cold at night. I don't think it snows very often in the valley since its not too high but it won't be as mild as BA in winter.

SCL can be a nice sidetrip for a moderately homesick gringo living in BA. It's so close and is strikingly similar to a large suburban US city in many ways. Even the malls are loaded with US stores & brands and you can go to various US chain restaurants like Tony Romas for a rack of ribs. The streets, organization, lifestyle seem much more American than Latin American except for the women. Look at the police force in SCL - they might as well be from a different planet than the poor BA criminalcops. They're professionals and you don't want to try bribing them. Discipline in this area is a key to a successful country which is something that most Latin American countries like Argentina have not implemented. The powers at be would rather own the law than have a just/efficient country. A lot of the people also prefer having powerless, hypercorrupt officials to a serious country and the responsibilities that come with it. Not so in Chile, which is probably the only place in the region I'd feel comfortable making an investment in.

[El Perro]

I'm going to Santiago this weekend, and I'll post any revelations on ISG. However, I find it difficult to believe it's going to hold a candle to Buenos Aires.

Slugfest,

I'll be interested in your impressions of Santiago. I am thinking of spending a few months in Santiago or Valparaiso. Good luck up there.

[Slugfest]

I'm going to Santiago this weekend, and I'll post any revelations on ISG. However, I find it difficult to believe it's going to hold a candle to Buenos Aires.

[El Perro]

Check the ISG. I haven't heard much about Santiago being on the monger radar. Lima maybe, Colombia some, Brazil definitely, but Santiago? Somebody will weigh in on this who's been around.

[Volpone]

Which city would be best for the price for escort or apartments with girls?

Buenos Aires or Santiago?

I plan to go in one of the 2.