Most expensive city in the world

[JackLuvsRack]

Guys this is getting off the point of what this forum is about, namely helping each other out, not cussing them out! I personally don't care if you're doing a Ukrainian, Brazilian, or that old lady sloth's mom from goonies; point is if she's a woman and you like her, go after her and have fun.

Being a supermodel watcher for sometime myself, I think Badboy does have a point about the number of Eastern European supermodels. Just in Victoria's Secret and Sports Illustrated you got so many Czechs: Veronica Varekova, Petra Nemcova, Eva Herzigova, Karolina Kurkova, and my all time favorite, Paulina Porizkova from the 80s. She was bigger than Gisele back in her day. And speaking of these Brazilain models, if you take Eastern European for being anything from Germany and beyond, well then Gisele Bundchen and Anna Hickman have Eastern European ancestry. Heidi Klum is German too, and in both Victoria's secret and Sports Illustrated. Unless you're Gisele or Adriana Lima, hard to get bigger than her. Lots of Russians out there, the most famous Natalia Vodianova. The list goes on and on. Who really cares though? Being a man, I'd be happy to do any them, no matter where they're from! And I'm sure all of you would too.

For the record though, I have you all beat.

Not one of these girls compares to Monica Bellucci. Italians rule!

Jack

[BadMan]

"""According to Forbes magazine, in 2004, the five highest-paid supermodels in the world were, in descending order, Milla Jovovich, Gisele Bundchen, Heidi Klum, Caroline Murphy, and Tyra Banks."""

And by the way Milla is Ukrainian.

""""Daria Werbowy (born November 19, 1983) is a Ukrainian-Canadian supermodel.

Werbowy holds the current record of opening the most shows in her opening season. To date, her clients have included Prada, Yves Saint-Laurent, Versace, Marc Jacobs, Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Givenchy, Belstaff, Lancôme, Ralph Lauren, Christian Dior and Chanel. In her first season she captured two of the modelling world's most coveted prizes: the cover of Vogue Italia, twice; and Prada's Fall / Winter ad campaign."""""

'''''''Snejana Onopka (born December 15, 1986) is a Ukrainian supermodel. """""""

""""""""Milla (Militza) Jovovich (Serbian Милица Јововић/ Milica Jovovi ć, Ukrainian Cyrillic: Мілла Йовович/; born December 17, 1975) is a Ukrainian-born American supermodel, actress, musician, singer, and fashion designer. At the age of eleven, Jovovich was spotted by the photographer Richard Avedon, who featured her in Revlon's "Most Unforgettable Women in the World" advertisements. In October 1987,.

Jovovich is also an "international spokesmodel" for L'Oreal cosmetics and was the highest paid supermodel in 2004. """"""""

I could go on and on, but I think even you get the point. You were and are flat out WRONG. The number of Ukrainian, Russian-Ukrainian, and Czech Supermodels far out weighs the number of Latin American supermodels by Like 10:1. Check your facts and then open your mouth. There are only about a handful of latin american supermodels. And they are mainly from Brazil and Argentina. I love Latin women, they are beautiful and I agree Colombian, Brazilian, Venezuelan and Argentine women are among the most beautiful. But as far as supermodels go, they are WAAAAYY behind the eastern european girls in that department. THAT isn't an opinion, that is a FACT. To each his own and different strokes and all that, but if you start a "FACTUAL" argument about supermodels, you might want to do your homework before you make yourself look like an ignorant fool.

Have fun in BA,.

Badboy.

You like facts. Hmmm. The number of Ukrainian supermodels currently employed in the world is. Zero.

[BadMan]

Ahhh. Now I get it! Your opinions are fact. Anyone else's are bullshit! I also understand your handle now. Especially the "boy"!

You like facts. Hmmm. The number of Ukrainian supermodels currently employed in the world is. Zero.

Heres a link for the "boy's" that make up lies as they go along.

http://www.vanityfair.com/fame/featu...ls_video200503

Not a FACT but an OPINION from Vanity Fair. I don't think anyone that HAS traveled the world wouldn't argue that Eastern European women are not only among the worlds most beautiful women, but they are also some of the worlds biggest super models. Just because your only exposure to the super model scene is the monthly victoria secret catalog doesn't mean you are right. And it also doesn't mean about half of the girls in that catalog aren't eastern european, whether or not you know all their personal biographical information. So maybe the " boy " Is the one trying to restart a three month old post by telling me that there are no Ukrainian or Eastern European super models, Which is a flat out bold faced lie. Again before you open your mouth do some fact checking unless YOU don't want to sound like an ignorant boy. This guy seems to have a real problem not only with me and MY opinions but also with all Ukrainian girls. To say there are no Ukrainian supermodels. Geez someone needs a reality check. But anyways I am done. Knock yourself out writing more bullshit.

Badboy

[BadMan]

I never said you were wrong Canuck, I said if you like Brazilians that fine with me, I also said I liked them too, I just didn't see a reason to ressurect a three month old post for no fucking reason. I see now your only purpose here is to start shit. And if I were you I would check your facts about the number of top eastern european super models. There are too many to count. So try again.

And Jaimito you can go whereever you want, you like BA better thats fine, so what? I still don't get the flaming, and as far as Dave and his mommy comment, you can blow me you fat fuck. You aren't going to have respect then fuck you. I don't give a shit whether your " mommy " heard that or not. Any other time you want to take the opportunity to flame me is allright with me. Keep em comming. And I still think Canuck is a flaming chump. Why don't you go ahead and write something of value. Or is this thread going to be the place you try to assert yourself on this forum. Real pathetic man.

Badboy

[Capt Dave]

You come off as a total chump.

I don't have time for your bullshit.

Whats your fucking point?

But who gives a shit.

Badboy

You certainly have a way with words!

Does your mommy know you talk like that?

[Jaimito Cartero]

I don't even know who you are but from your very first post you come off as a total chump. Waste your time flaming someone else. I don't have time for your bullshit. You like Brazilian women, thats fine with me, I like em too. Whats your fucking point? Start your own thread about them. I still believe and most people agree that eastern european women are some of the most beautiful women in the world. But I guess you wouldn't know that because you have never been to Ukraine or the Czech Rep. But who gives a shit. Go antagonize someone else.

As far as China is concerned, you are right this is a punters website, but if you have anything factual, post it. Other than that, go ahead and leach off the website but don't start flaming. If you are going to write something I suggest you write reviews, or SOMETHING of value.

Different strokes, deal with it.

Badboy

You don't seem to like being questioned too much, eh? You have an "Exon" knee jerk reaction where you just flame someone totally without giving some proper thought to a civil response.

In the last 18 months, I've been to 20 countries, including most of the ones you mentioned for really hot chicas. I'd rather go to to BA for a number of reasons.

[Canuck9970]

Ahhh. Now I get it! Your opinions are fact. Anyone else's are bullshit! I also understand your handle now. Especially the "boy"!

You like facts. Hmmm. The number of Ukrainian supermodels currently employed in the world is. Zero.

Thanks for the warm welcome by the way! (and that was sarcasm in case you missed it)

[BadMan]

I don't even know who you are but from your very first post you come off as a total chump. Waste your time flaming someone else. I don't have time for your bullshit. You like Brazilian women, thats fine with me, I like em too. Whats your fucking point? Start your own thread about them. I still believe and most people agree that eastern european women are some of the most beautiful women in the world. But I guess you wouldn't know that because you have never been to Ukraine or the Czech Rep. But who gives a shit. Go antagonize someone else.

As far as China is concerned, you are right this is a punters website, but if you have anything factual, post it. Other than that, go ahead and leach off the website but don't start flaming. If you are going to write something I suggest you write reviews, or SOMETHING of value.

Different strokes, deal with it.

Badboy

[JackLuvsRack]

I think it depends on what you like. I have a friend who's obsessed with Asians, nothing else. If he came to BA he'd consider everything average, let alone Kiev. If you like Black women, BA is probably not for you, and neither is Ukraine. But if you like Southern European, Italian, Mediterranean type girls, hard to beat BA. I love European women, the blonder the better, but my friend would be bored at a Swedish Bikini convention, talking about how he'd rather fuck a 5 ft Thai girl or Mao's wife. Depends on the person.

Just my two cents,.

Jack

[Canuck9970]

I am a new member and have spent the past few days getting some background on BA for an upcoming visit. I could not let Badboy13's remarks pass even though this is an older post. So this Newbie now will add his thoughts and risk getting off to a rocky start within the group. Lol.

There is no doubt in my mind that the most beautiful women in the world exist in Brasil. My first impression of BA is that it also ranks highly. Like BB13 I have also travelled and lived in multiple countries and I cannot think of a single country where the women even come close to comparison to South American women. (hmmm. How many Ukrainian super models are employed by the likes of Victoria Secret?

As to China becoming the next great superpower. Well this is a sex site and I will resist commenting on that pathetic regime.

Ciao!

[BadMan]

I just read your post on Monica.

Very diplomatic Post, my hats off to you, Thank you for being both a gentleman and a scholar,

Though you might want to look at those two sites, I posted Vodka and Dreamed, Monica is not on any of those sites, and I think anyone will agree, though I think maybe you meant that girl Angelica on Vodka's site, I admit she looks like her but younger and a little thicker. Again please post the link you are talking about, but I think thats about the only one that even looks like Monica, and believe me I know porn.

Those sites I posted are 100% real, I have had quite a few of those girls, and they have all been knockouts, believe me man, dreamed escorts is one of the best and most reliable agencies in Kiev, and Vodka is also, they charge up to thousands of dollars, for fake girls? No, they might look too good to be real but they aren't. Thats Ukraine, one day you will come and see. These girls put Czech babes to shame.

Oh a last note about Monica, about a few months ago she was in Prague filming a foursome scene for PG's http://www.spermswap.com

A european adult production company. So even though she might live in the states, which I don't know, She, like any good hoe, goes where the money is.

Thanks again man for the comments and the class.

Badboy

[Daddy Rulz]

Thats the pornstar I was refering too. One of the chicas on one of those pages was her and I'm pretty sure she's still in the States and Czeck not Ukrainian. None the less, I wasn't trying to offend. There surely is some hot poontang in Eastern Europe, never been there but I read a few forums. I think you will enjoy BsAs though and hope you have fun.

[BadMan]

Well let me start off by saying, I don't think I am living a higher life than anyone else, I can just as happily live off 3k instead of 5k, and maybe in BA thats more plausible. Frankly I don't like to throw money around, because he who does that is either Donald Trump or wants to pretend he is, and I'm not. So I'll save and invest until I can throw it all away,

And about your comment on how to rank the most expensive cities, I think you are right in a theoretical sense, but at the same time this report is not based on rich business men prices, you should go to the Mercer website directly and download their Methodolgy schematic. It will help you answer the questions you yourself are posing.

But no, basically it ranks the median, through different and wide ranging criterion. Do you think we can accurately evaluate the cost of living in los angeles if we do an evaluation of the cost of living in east los angeles only? Or evaluate new york by using Marcy projects as a baseline? Or san francisco by seeing the cost of living in old town? I don't think it would be accurate at all and I'm sure most would agree. And yes for a tourist coming to los angeles he might evaluate the cost of living very differently if he went to stay at a $40 dollar a night crack appt in compton instead of going to the beverly hills hotel, but the point is neither of those would make a good baseline, or be accurate, so that is not the criteria used in this index.

Personaly I have lived in france and san francisco and los angeles, also I spent time in moscow and lima, prague, costa rica, ecuador, the netherlands and austria, and now I find myself in Kiev. So what I would tell you from my experience, its a pretty accurate report, maybe not 100% but around 90%. And remember the cost of a newspaper is a sample that CNN MONEY gave, they use hundreds of different things to make their evaluations. I don't know if they evaluate Adult Entertainment, but even that is subjective depending on what every individual is willing to pay. Point is, it is what it is and to live Middle class in Kiev costs just about the same as living middle class in Vienna or Rome.

With that said if you aren't involved in business or don't like the most beautiful women in the world in truckloads, then no kiev isn't for you. Me personaly, I am here finalizing some real estate deals and I'm out, maybe if the cost of living was a little cheaper I might stay but as I said in a previous thread, the cost of living here middle class is negating about 50% of my rental income here so it makes no sense in staying If I can pay someone else to administrate things for alot less and live comfortably in BA for about 2 thousand less.

You are right that the majority of people arent rich in kiev, but let me ask you, isn't that true for any country? Buenos Aires, Lima, Rio, Mexico? And european cities are no different. But the economy here is growing at alarming rates. And that is also the problem, inflation is too high based on the median salary, it might be problematic in the future, as Norman pointed out. Ukraine is at the moment starting the adhesion process in order to become part of the EU, a move that many in this country don't want, but if it does happen the monetary system will change to Euros. For business, these are very interesting developements, the EU, Mercosur, SCO, these will be the new players in the global economy and their major cities, will become even more expensive. It's all about change and being able to accept and adapt to it. The US and Western Europe are no longer as strong as they used to be,

China alone will overtake most competitors in almost all fields within the next few years, and Russia has become the largest Energy trader in the world, What do you think will happen to their major cities? At this very moment the SCO (Shanghai Cooperation Organization) is scaring the crap out of both the US and Europe because they see no way to compete to an economically, militarily, and socially united China, Russia, India, which is what the SCO is, plus other countries.

I personally hope all goes well for me in BA, and I can find all the fine babes I can wave my stick at, and if not I can allways take a plane and recharge in prague or kiev.

And to anyone planning a trip here, I would tell you this place is a must. And Easy is right, the quantity and quality here is just unbelievable. We are talking a ratio of 8 girls per one guy, and they are almost all fine, the hottest MILF's I have ever seen, and the hottest young babes too. You guys have to go, just expect to pay more than BA, but with the proper research, and budgeting of money and resources, It won't be too bad.

Thanks for your coments easy and norman you guys have given me some things to think about.

Happy hunting.

The Bad One

[Easy Go]

You need to be cautious when interpreting the "most expensive cities" rankings as the market basket is specific to a visiting businessman rather than locals. For example, if it was included, it would use the price of pussy at Black rather than Doly's and we'd all think it was cheaper to visit Germany than Argentina. A more real example is that it includes the price of an international newspaper ($4.55 in BA vs $3.40 in Moscow) which most of us don't really give a crap about.

For most of us, there is no way that Saõ Paulo or Hanoi is the same cost to visit as San Francisco or Singapore the same cost as Paris.

I don't know much about Ukraine except that the average person appears to be as poor as dirt. At least that's what I hear from my (poor and non-mongering) brother based on a couple of visits he made in the last year. He did say that he that there were more beautiful women there than any place he has ever been before so I wouldn't be too quick to strike Kiev from your list.

I'm not disputing anything Badboy13 is saying. He's just living a higher-end life than most of us here. I am afraid that he might be in for a bit of a disappointment in BA as I have not really seen much sign of the high-end trade that he seems to prefer.

[Norman Stormin]

You are right Badboy! I am really behind the times. My generalizations of the last 15 years have been that Europe has become more expensive than the US. Five years ago I was in Saint Petersberg and concluded it was more expensive than Berlin. Your links were very enlightening. I was shocked to learn that Hanoi is tied for 50th place with San Francisco. Thanks to your insight, I have struck Kiev from my list of cities to visit and replaced it with Asuncion. I guess I am guilty of "looking for love in all the cheap places"!

Your explanation of the migration of Ukrainian providers to Germany makes sense considering they are controlled by organized criminals. The gross disparity between income and cost of living also makes sense yet bodes of serious trouble ahead. No wonder you're moving to Buenos Aires.

Thanks for your mini world economics briefing. I'm sure you'll have a fantasic mongering experience in Buenos Aires after you've recovered from reverse "sticker shock".