Badboy's First BA Adventure

[El Greco]

Indulge me Badboy, but if I have El Greco's attention-remember "Never on Sunday"? That was my introduction as a youngster to anything Greek. Ummmmm Melina Mercouri.

You don't know what memories you brought up to me.

I had the honor of meeting this fine woman on several occasions. The first one was late 60s, she was young and me even younger, on the island of Hydra where they were shooting some schenes for the film PHAEDRA playing with Antony Perkins.

In the 70s we were members of the same polïtical party and had been friends since then. She was fighting all over europe against the greek junta at that time.

Later on she became Minister of culture and arts for about 15 years untill the end of her life. She was married to the director of the "Never on Sunday" film Jules Dassen since then.


All Greeks refer to her with her first name only. Melina.

She was to Greeks what Evita was to the Argentinos. Even her political opponents loved her.

El Greco

[Cowpie]

I thought it was my duty, as a senior member of this forum, to clarify and try to calm down things not to flame them.

Hey Greco,

I've had second thoughts on my flaming with BB13.

He has reported on a couple of chicas I plan to see on my trip to BA in 4 weeks.

Knowing what each chica expects is good information but equally important is knowing if the photos are real and the service is good.

PS.

Greco do you have any numbers you want to share?:-)

[El Greco]

I thought it was my duty, as a senior member of this forum, to clarify and try to calm down things not to flame them.

[Rock Harders]

Mongers-

I think this guy ¨Badbody13¨, is just another Marak5 or Goblin in the making.

Suerte,

Dirk Diggler

[BadMan]

Thanks for the post El Greco,

Since I got here to BA I have only written reviews, I didnt attack anyone, I responded to attacks on me and my posts and also on people who were mucking up my personal travel review thread. I have no problems with anyone, as long as they respect. I am with you 100 % Greco, and that is why I was writing reviews. To give people on here something to entertain them and also to give what I thought was much needed information to newbies and those that wanted to fuck some cuties. I was trying to add to Jacksons great site and if possible try to add what I found missing. I have a couple more reviews I haven't written yet, But I will in the next few days. I just find it lame to spend my time and try to give back to this forum just to be attacked for paying 50 pesos more.

I won't post anymore BS and I hope others stop attacking me. Thanks again for the post Greco, and stay tuned for some more reviews on my new thread. I will also move all my previous reviews there. But if possible I hope we don't start long pricing discussions on my new thread. That is not what its about. Its about reviews of chicks, and if anyone has question I can answer, but please leave the prolonged pricing discussions and Badboy bashing to another thread and leave my new thread pristine.

Thanks El Greco.

Badboy

[El Perro]

Indulge me Badboy, but if I have El Greco's attention-remember "Never on Sunday"? That was my introduction as a youngster to anything Greek. Ummmmm Melina Mercouri.

[El Greco]

I can recite the first few lines of the Iliad in Greek. So Aeloic / Ionic, but no modern Greek.

I was only joking.

Iliad, although I studied a little in school, sounds "Greek" to me too.

Very tough language. I only get the rough idea of what I am reading.

Well, if you concider that the whole USA does not speak Greek now by only one vote...When they were to decide what will be the official language of the new nation somewhere in the east coast if I recall correctly.

[Monger514]

After all how many of you out there can actually speak Greek. None I suppose. Well I, at least, try to speak some English.

I can recite the first few lines of the Iliad in Greek. So Aeloic / Ionic, but no modern Greek.

[El Greco]

Gentlemen,

I didn't want to interfere in this Badboy's war against almost everyone on this forum but I believe I owe this to someone. You will eventually see what I mean.

I believe Badboy, if I am not mistaken, was attacked and provoked well before he hits the grounds of BsAs.

He was attacked about his political views in the first place. I can understand him on those views and I know that millions of people in Europe and around the world share those views too.

I know that it is very difficult, for you American people, to accept or even try to understand those views. I have my explanation for that but this forum is of another subject and we must focus on that and that only.

So he was totally attacked, thus provoked, before his arrival and that made him aggressive and that's why he is now attacking everyone with different opinion about chica pricing. He most probably made a mistake of overpaying a little but I don't think it was that big deal. So many others do. Most of them don't post on this forum or even know of its existence.

Jackson bought this forum a few years back, he changed it, he improved it a lot and he is maintaining it, very well actually, only by himself for years. He puts a lot of effort and he is spending a lot of his time and money for it.

It is his property and his business lately. He is not only kindly hosting us here for nothing but he is also letting lots of people, on this and the other two forums, making business and money for free.

Think about Roxanna, Capt. David, Bert etc of this forum, Solana and Aussie Greg of Colombia and Giotto of Bangkok on ISG forum just to mention a few.

Not only that but he spent a lot of money, more than 100.000 usd lately and he is not finished yet, defending his forums on the lawsuit against them in the USA courts.

What is he getting in return from us? Fights!

Well that is no good to anybody.

His forums, his property, are gaining value by good informative posts. Not by fighting, each other, posts. This way is losing not gaining any value.

How would you like guys if someone, that you most probably never met, comes into your property, your house or business and starts messing and fucking around sending away your guests or customers?

So, for God's shake let us all stop fucking with Jackson's property and let us all start fucking the chicas and only them.

Gentlemen I come to BsAs to make friends and not enemies and I believe everyone else does. Fights are no good to anyone. Let us all have a break and focus on our subject. It's more fun believe me.

You too Badboy. Why don't you stop being a Badboy and stop fucking other members the way you do lately. Aren't you getting enough from the chicas man? Why don't you start being a naughty boy instead and keep posting all those fine kinky posts of yours?

Remember you can still break bones by writing in a more polite way. See my post, about three weeks back, and you will understand what I mean.

Thanks,

El Greco.

PS Forgive any phrasing errors and give me credit for them. You see English is not my mother tongue and my typing skills are terrible.

If I had to write in Greek believe me it would have been a much better post.

After all how many of you out there can actually speak Greek. None I suppose. Well I, at least, try to speak some English.

Suerte

[Big Bob 7]

Lex,

That is one of the best posts to address this problem that I have ever seen. You have helped me to see the light and I will respond accordingly.

[BadMan]

We agree on at least one thing stray,

Very nice post Lex, though my personal chica review thread wasnt the place for it and I don't agree with everything I appreciate the time you took to write it and articulate your opinion. I will write a few things in the chica pricing thread.

Badboy

[StrayLight]

Shit, I really don't have time for this...

Glad you took the time, though. It's an excellent post. Thanks.

[Lexton]

Shit, I really don't have time for this. But thanks for the thoughtful response. Perhaps we can show these people how things SHOULD be discussed.

One of the great things about a reply such as yours is that one is able to understand from it where their position is misunderstood, and communication is not occurring.

Remember, I did not start this discussion, but since it is here, it is as good a time as any to try to make a point that really HAS to be made, because it is so important. I am trying to communicate primarily with the OTHERS on the forum, more than with you. People like Captain Dave and Dickhead.

This activity of ours is very much like hunting. It is a VERY low population density activity. A single woman will not, and cannot, see a very large number of men over time. Especially a woman of quality. 4 or 5 men a week is a lot. If she is paid more, she will reduce that to 1 or 2. A single small club cannot service more than 4-5 customers per day. So when one starts talking about putting access information on a worldwide forum, it is very easy to overwhelm one small club, woman, or apartment. Jackson said recently he thinks there are at least 30 AP tourists in BA on any given day. That is more than enough for a HUGE impact on the top 10 clubs, cafes and web sites. Especially since there are probably at least 300 NON AP monger tourists also in the game.

Now, in hunting, it is practically impossible to obtain information about a good hunting spot. I would hesitate to tell my BROTHER about a good farm for hunting, because I am not certain I can trust him not to destroy it. Because even 1 or 2 other hunters (especially some asshole that bothers cows or shoots a dog) is enough to destroy the access and the site. That's how it goes.

It is useless for me to mention any of my heartthrobs, because they are ALL private or nearly so. In BA, 3 different women quit working in clubs while I saw them, and in SNOB I was the only foreign monger because I was seeing a little drink hustler who normally didn't session with the guys, and nobody else was interesting. I put a great value on EXCLUSIVITY. So basically, NOBODY else can see them, or very few. So why discuss them? And it doesn't interest me all that much the women you see, because we like different styles. So I am not going to try to take them off your market.

I think the reason there are not more reviews is that they are out of date so quickly. You cannot duplicate your experience a week later, much less anyone else. I think the experienced people know that YMMV so much that reviews cannot be relied upon. But well written reviews do make good porn, especially for SP residents, and are popular for that.

So the thing that is important is the PROCESS of finding women or a hunting spot. How to negotiate with a farmer, or in a bar. The areas that are most productive. And so on. That we can discuss with much less damage, even on a public forum.

Remember, I said I didn't think your sessions were causing much pricing damage outside of the tourist venues. They will tend to increase prices in a group that is already overpriced, but I don't care. That HAS TO HAPPEN, because it is, and will stay, a tourist venue. I said, tourist prices will increase and service decline until it is no longer a value proposition, and the tourist demand stabilizes with the tourist venue supply.

The reason I don't say anything about the people at the Hotel Alvear is that they are doing what is best for me. They are staying there and spending their money on women at Black, that are thus destroyed and useless to me. So they are well managed. What I don't want is for someone to put a flier in the lobby of the Hotel Alvear advertising better women for less at Excedra, and cause them to take their money to Excedra and further destroy that. Or if you are talking to an Alvear type in Black, why tell him he is wasting his money and should go to Newport and ruin that? You are cutting your own throat if you like Newport. That is the way it is, unfortunately.

In other words, the thing that causes great damage is INFORMING 11,000 TOURISTS ABOUT THIS GREAT LITTLE BAR IN CONSTITUCION WITH 4 FANTASTIC WOMEN. What the fuck do you think is going to happen? 10 tourists will be out there the next day and it will not be fantastic by the end of the week. This actually just happened with club ORO in August. Seismo wrote this glowing report about a new bar and a bunch of people were all OVER the damn place immediately. Dickhead injected some reality to the description, and that did a lot to stem the tide. And this was a fairly large bar, over 10 chicas, supposedly. If it had been more interesting, how long do you think it would have stayed that way?

So we come to the crux of the issue. "TOURIST MANAGEMENT". Be careful what you say. I recently castigated Dickhead for trying to send people from an apartment that was destroyed by tourists to one that is more value oriented. And Capt Dave, you are a great guy, but stop talking to newbies about the suburbs. IN "Top Recommendations" a bunch of people beat up on Marak5 for recommending SOLID GOLD. WHY? I LOVED IT! What a great place for him! If he wants to get other tourists there, who am I to tamper with it? It is, in many ways, a great spot for newbies. Why would I want to send him somewhere that I liked, with 2000 of his friends?

THAT is my real communication. Why challenge someone who thinks Black has great value? I LOVE IT. For the tourist, it does have value, and everyone should experience it. For the short term visitor, it offers a reliable product. But for me, it does not have the attraction of my current #1 heartthrob. She is 20YO, weighs 90 lb, and lives with her aunt because her mother threw her out of the house for working as a provider. I may have been her first CIM, which I insist on. I pay her $ar15o for 4 hours. I have very little leverage with her, and can't see her as much as I like, because with no kids, she doesn't need the money and has to cover up what she gets. If I offered her more, it would MAKE IT WORSE, AND SHE WOULD SEE ME LESS. And she sure as hell can't see anyone else. For various reasons, she is the probably the best I have ever had. Since I am old enough to be her grandfather, that is great value for me. What I don't want is a bunch of yahoos out there competing for women in my markets.

Actually, then, I LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING. I already said that originally. If you are able to promote area-VIP, platinum, etc and show that they can "cater to the more affluent monger who doesn't want the bullshit and the hassle and just wants to know what semi playboy bunnies he can call up and bang for 80-100 bucks a pop", that is GREAT. It is perfect "TOURIST MANAGEMENT". The price will soon be 100-200 bucks a pop, but as you point out, that is capitalism. And it will rise until the value proposition is gone. BUT EVERYONE WINS. THE TOURISTS GET WHAT THEY WANT, AND THE LONG TERM PEOPLE ARE NOT AS BADLY DAMAGED. I just wish I had started really forcing this discussion 3 years ago when it was $25-$35 bucks a pop. But back then, I went along with everyone who said: "The tourists are not going to affect the prices in BA that much", even though I had just witnessed the same thing in Costa Rica, in a smaller city. Now I am just trying to convince the other long term value people that they can do nothing better than help you out.

The other post I talked about making before is on "TOURIST MANAGEMENT". A better description of the economic situation, and a better way for the value people who come up with new information to post it, and avoid creating stampedes on new value propositions. And long termers should NEVER try to correct anyone by sending them to a better value proposition, or telling them why they shouldn't go to Black. Let them find out by themselves when they have more experience and can handle it. Remember, your correction is CORRECTING 11,000 others at the same time. The fundamental idea for the long termers is to keep the short termers in the best tourist venues.

It is interesting that Doggboy mentioned the damage at Excedra. But Doggboy, that is now just another tourist spot, and is more or less following what is happening with Area-VIP, Platinum, and so on. That situation is a done deal and beyond redemption. The damage there in the last 2 years is already terrible. With better Tourist Management, we might have slowed up the damage there, as well as at Newport and Cafe Orleans. Those are not good tourist venues, because the places and the women are so unpredictable and uncontrolled. We have done a poor job of explaining that. To destroy pricing, the woman needs to be able to count on going with 2 short term tourists per week. Anything that keeps that contact down helps. And why should we now spread the damage to virgin territory?

Anybody who asks "where should I go in BA?" in their first or second post is automatically a lazy, dangerous, idiot. The only answer they deserve is "go to Black, it is perfect for you". And no, strangely, that is not a lie. They will go perfectly together, and it is their best option.

So I hope this clarifies my position on this further. This is likely to be more important to you later. If you are here for the long term, we will probably see each other at some point. I am actually thinking of returning to BA next year. When one is looking for "diamonds in the rough" I think if helps to have a big diamond mine. And unfortunately, it seems to be becoming clear that BA is probably the biggest diamond mine I will be able to have, and I am hoping that it is not overrun completely. But I am still investigating some other options.

[El Perro]

Can we stop with the BB bashing already? No matter what you think of him the nature of the bashing is beginning to say more about the bashers than the bashee. This is unfortunate as many of the bashers are otherwise valuable posters, many of whom I have met and like. The sound of these posters banging their collective heads against the wall is beginning to be embarassing and, at this point, boring. Seems to me one of the essential reasons for having one's own thread is to give warning to others that the content might not be to their liking, and if that's so, then AVOID. As for the pricing issue, it ain't gonna make any difference in the long run what BB pays for pussy. If their are 200 to 300 BBs then it will. AND, even if that becomes the case, no amount of moaning and accusations on AP is going to have any impact. Plus, he's apparently sampling internet gatos almost exclusively, who are already pricey anyway. If he starts paying 250-300p for chicas at Exedra then I say we get up a lynch mob..

And as for his reputed big dick, please, STOP!

Dogg

[BadMan]

BB13

Well BB it's been fun jousting with you but enough is enough. You've angered me so, that your officially off my Christmas card list.

Although I do look forward to your future stories but please don't mention fucking someones ass hole with that 10 inch slong of yours, it dosen't add anything to your credibility.

It's now 1:00Am in BA prime time, go out and find a chica and send us the details you stud.

Actualy I don't get anything out of thumb wrestling with other mongers on the internet, but it seems like alot of " senior " memebrs are quite combative online.

Don't worry about me writing about my Cola adventures, so far I have only met two girls that were up for letting me tap, and one is now in Spain and the other is Fiamma and she mostly likes to work out of her apartment and although it is worth it to go see her, I hate going to apartments, so I don't plan on getting much cola in the near future.

I would go out, but I am lazy I had just called up Candela aka Ayi from Area VIP, but she was busy with another client, and I also called AnaBella from Area VIP, but she wanted 300 in her apartment, so that was a no from the start and she wanted 400 plus cab fair to come to my pad, I told her I would think about it. I will probably see her tomorrow, though I will probably get all kinds of hell from forum members, but fuck it who cares, her body looks banging. So I fear tonight I will be pussy free, tomorrow though I will have Anabella and Miss Sol for a late night snack.

So stay tuned tomorrow, but expect the reviews in a new spam free thread. I have no problems with anyone on this board, just let me post without trying to diss me and I will reciprocate. Lets all just focus on getting pussy and sharing the information.

Badboy