BBBJ List

[Dickhead]

That brings back fond memories of deciding to take out the sister of a gal I had been with many times. She gave me BBFS and made me swear not to tell her sister, so I didn't. A few months later I decided to do a threesome with them since, although I had been with a bunch of pairs of sisters, I had never done them at the same time. So it starts out we change rubbers every time we change partners, then it goes to we wipe off the rubber every time, then it goes to we don't wipe off the rubber. Finally the "original" sister goes to the bathroom and the BBFS sister pulls the rubber off, holding her finger to her lips and glancing nervously at the bathroom door. As soon as the toilet flushed, the rubber went back on. I have heard both of these sisters swear up and down they do not do BBBJ.

[Lysander]

This is absurd. She may blow you without a rubber and not me, or vice versa. She may not blow you without a rubber the first time and she may the second time. The privado may say they do / don't do that but the woman may have other ideas. She might blow without a rubber on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays and not on Tuesdays and Thursdays. She might blow you without a rubber if you bring a rubber with some really nasty spermicide on it. She might blow you without a rubber if she is drunk and not if she is sober. She might blow you without a rubber when she has no boyfriend but not when she does. She might blow you (or fuck you) without a rubber if she is pissed off at her boyfriend. Maybe she would have blown you without a rubber if the last asshole hadn't promised not to come in her mouth and then done so anyway. And so forth.

I go to one place in particular and guys ask the women if they will do BBBJ, while they are still in the club, while other people are at the table, and they say "no." I laugh because I have come in these same women's mouths. And then someone will post that Fabiana from Privado X will do BBBJ and they go through five "Fabianas" a month.

There speaks a man after my own heart. Much as many people on this board seem to want it to be so - P4p is not a simple commodity business - it is a complex (and unpredictable) service business. That's what makes it interesting. It is ridiculous to think you can package and sell sex in the same way you sell pizza. I agree, the whole idea of a BBBJ list is absurd.

[Aqualung]

Very true - I have also found it often depends on hundreds of variables to whether she blows you without or not. I was once with two girls and one, a girl that had often given me BBBJ suddenly slipped on a rubber. When I was about to protest she held a finger to her mouth (like the silence nurse in the hospital pictures - Hahaha) and pointed to the other girl. Later on my friend told me the other girl didn't give bare back and she didn't want her to know that she did.

The funny part is that some time later a friend of mine took out this second girl and she gave him BBBJ so the next day I took her out and she also gave me a BBBJ without even questioning it. She even swallowed! And Similar things have happened to me with anal sex.

These girls are careful what they tell each other.

[Dickhead]

This is absurd. She may blow you without a rubber and not me, or vice versa. She may not blow you without a rubber the first time and she may the second time. The privado may say they do / don't do that but the woman may have other ideas. She might blow without a rubber on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays and not on Tuesdays and Thursdays. She might blow you without a rubber if you bring a rubber with some really nasty spermicide on it. She might blow you without a rubber if she is drunk and not if she is sober. She might blow you without a rubber when she has no boyfriend but not when she does. She might blow you (or fuck you) without a rubber if she is pissed off at her boyfriend. Maybe she would have blown you without a rubber if the last asshole hadn't promised not to come in her mouth and then done so anyway. And so forth.

I go to one place in particular and guys ask the women if they will do BBBJ, while they are still in the club, while other people are at the table, and they say "no." I laugh because I have come in these same women's mouths. And then someone will post that Fabiana from Privado X will do BBBJ and they go through five "Fabianas" a month.

[TejanoLibre]

Keep the thread.

One of the girls from X was asking me or telling me that she is aware of the ¨list ¨. Of mongers seeking girls that will do that.

Interesting!

[Tessan]

Some guys are upset, because they think the BBJ list will is too promotional, and will cause chicas to raise their price.

If the list is limited to just who does BBJ, with good, so-so, or bad, then it will not promote any single girl. But if the list has one girl that is the absolute best, then she will have allot more attention, and her prices may be affected.

If the list is large, with lots of girls that do good BBJ, It should not affect price. And is not promotional. I see no problem with having other lists, as long as they are large, and do not promote one girl over all others. Having their skill rated between good to bad, is also helpful.

[Lysander]

This is a reason I started this thread. So you don't get fucked like I did.

I went in search of Mara at Cabildo 2985. It was around 2pm and only three chicas were available. Mara was not. I picked, sounds, like Leet, for 70p.

No BBBJ, no DATY. VERY BAD JBC. Suck, stop, hand, suck, stop, hand, suck, stop, hand, suck, I stopped her and left. You get the picture.

Shaved pussy, but so what.

Your experience shows the need for a list of girls who don't. Leet would be on it and you would have known to avoid her.

[WorldTravel69]

This is a reason I started this thread. So you don't get fucked like I did.

I went in search of Mara at Cabildo 2985. It was around 2pm and only three chicas were available. Mara was not. I picked, sounds, like Leet, for 70p.

No BBBJ, no DATY. VERY BAD JBC. Suck, stop, hand, suck, stop, hand, suck, stop, hand, suck, I stopped her and left. You get the picture.

Shaved pussy, but so what.

[Lexton]

My basic dislike for the BBBJ list is the fact that it is a PROMOTIONAL LIST, rather than a particular issue with BBBJ. I had the same issues with the Beginner's Guide, and also any ANAL, TOP TEN, BEST FUCKS, SUBMISSIVES, or what have you lists.

The majority of Worldtraveller's lists are a real time saver for the person looking over a destination for the first time. Their best feature is that they are non partisan and non-promotional. Thus, there is little that really tries to send people to any specific place or activity. They also tend to be LONG. In this way, they can be very useful without damage.

Any kind of ordered list, or promotional list, is a magnet for lazy people and the type of people most likely to cause problems because of unreasonable expectations (beginner's especially). Promotional lists are HIGHLY CONCENTRATED INFORMATION. They tend to produce HIGHLY CONCENTRATED ACTIVITY. They will tend to focus attention on the top of the list. That attention inevitably destroys the entries at the top of whatever list. This is the essential difference between "tourist trap" and "off the beaten path". "Tourist traps" tend to be near the top of a lot of lists.

In the ATM post, I did say that nobody payed attention. In some respects, that is good. It insures that the information in the forum does the least possible damage and gets the broadest distribution. Those who really care, pay attention and find answers. Lazy people looking for easy thrills will find lists and Beginner's Guides.

These women may sell sex for money, but each one is not prepared to do that much more than 4-5 times / day, 6 days / week at most. Most would prefer less, with a higher rate. So any one woman won't service more than 30 men per week. That isn't many. The women getting top billing will be changed, certainly for the worse. You can already see it with Caroline, where someone says: "Now I willl try to see her." Her skills have been mentioned many times before in the forum, BUT FEW PAYED ATTENTION. Now she has been FEATURED. That will probably have some effects on her, mostly bad: 1. Burnout, resulting in poorer service 2. Limited Availability 3. Higher Prices 4. Issues with co-workers (envy, resentment) if she has any.

There have been examples of this effect here in hotels, apartments, bars. IIRC, "Hotel Arte Suites"(or Design Suites?) was one of the early casualties. I made most of these same observations in ISG Paraguay when someone asked for a list of the "Top 10 Apartments". If the list is provided, the top 10 surely won't be the top ten for long.

WT, be careful who you put at the top of the list. Make sure they are ones you have already seen.

[Jaimito Cartero]

It is a List. I don't mine adding the "The ones that don't", to the bottom.

That way you only have to carry one List.

Well, if Lysander is serious, which I doubt, having a different list would make it clear.

Rather like having to hit start on your computer to turn it off, it can lead to confusion.

[WorldTravel69]

It is a List. I don't mind adding the "The ones that don't", to the bottom.
That way you only have to carry one List.

Since you're so keen on the issue, simply start your own thread.

[Jaimito Cartero]

Well in the interests of those who are into commodity sex, I have been going through my notes of current visit and previous visits last year.

Since you're so keen on the issue, simply start your own thread.

[Lysander]

My contention here is that "sexual services" ARE commodities.

Don't sweat an innocuous list about best BBBJs on AP. It's like spit in a hurricane. You won't see it or feel it.

Dogg

Well in the interests of those who are into commodity sex, I have been going through my notes of current visit and previous visits last year. (Five months in all) to compile a list of all the chicas who did BBBJ, or who in conversation said that they would do BBBJ. To my surprise I was only able to find five girls who absolutely do not do BBBJ. So in the interests of simplicity, for the benefit of those who like to have their sex nice and predictable, cut and dried (and for those who feel safer with girls who don't offer BBBJ) here is a starter list of girls who don't do BBBJ. I am sure other experienced board members will be only to happy to add to the list. I don't expect the final list to be that long.

1. Alexis of Bairesgirls. Lovely girl, nice personality. Nice experience. Recommended, especially if you prefer CBJ.

2. Augustina (who used to work for Gysell and has now set up on her own)

3. A blond girl who's name I forget at Amenbar 2313 P1 in November who refused to do BBBJ even for a reasonable propina.

4. Noelia (very popular girl last November) at Esmeralda 517. Would not do BBBJ, as was made clear by madam, but Noelia did promise that if I went to see her again, she would do it. Sadly I never got back to find out.

5. Slim dark haired Portenia from Exedra. I think she was called Marina.

And that folks is it! On the other hand, there are more than 50 girls on my BBBJ list. I may post this list some time if I can be bothered. My conclusion is that most (maybe 90%) of chicas in BA will do BBBJ. Sometimes they might take a bit of persuading, and perhaps in some cases a small propina (20-30p) may be needed.

In general the news for BBBJ enthusiasts is good. A couple of caveats are in order. Firstly, I don't frequent massage establishments (my visit to Gysells was my only such visit) I suspect that girls who work in these places are less likely to offer BBBJ, which is why they work there and not in regular privados. Secondly, I have talked to a number of girls in clubs, and been with a few. They all offered BBBJ. However, I have heard it said that even with the high prices they charge there are girls in these places who don't offer BBBJ if they can get away with it. As many of them don't rely on repeat business this is hardly surprising. However, I can't personally confirm this rumour.

The other good news is that, in my experience, the average standard of BBBJ is quite high. Although most girls get higher marks for effort and persistence than for technical merit. Some girls don't like CIM and will only do BBBJ if you can convince them you won't come in their mouth. Other girls don't seem to mind and will go at it like a mini Hoover in a effort to make you come as soon as possible. Not good if you have a hair trigger.

[Toymann]

Easy list for me.

Eiki. Platynum. Beach ball through a garden hose. Exellent technique with super finish.

Romina from Maipu. Same as above.

Alexa from Rox's list. Very good during. Just Ok finish.

Gysella from Hook. Oh yeah. Total package.

Julia from excedra. Small tetas secratary. Very good finish.

Patricia from Madahos. Awsome. Great finish.

Veronika from Ness. Enthusiastic. Doesn't take no for an answer.

Hope this helps. Happy mongering. Toymann.

PS. Exon's ex-ho Miss Sol finished just fine. Missing in action for some time now.

[Hobbying]

YMMV when it comes to services offered, IMHO.