A question on transportation

[Dickhead]

152, 132, 39, and 168 have a high proportion of newer buses. And amazingly, the diesel train coming out of Retiro (ends up in Pilar) has some really nice new cars coming on line. Excellent seats. Lots of trim on it too, and a good place to buy alfajores and other porquerrias.

[El Perro]

Doggggg I think the 59 is one of the worst buses in BA. What is up with all that meandering through Luis Maria Campos and such? Yeah it goes by the VA hospital. Plus their equipment is substandard. Yeah it does stop right by Catto's but overall their buses are old with squeaky brakes and also twice I have had drivers smoking cigarettes which led to some "issues." Saw that once on the 86 from the airport at 4 AM but these 59 guys were adamant about smoking which really made me enjoy ripping the cigarette from their mouths and throwing it out the window.

DHHHHH-I never noticed those issues, but then I would have been more apt to fire up a cigarette with the driver and discuss Boca versus River. I like the 59 because it meanders about in areas where I meander. You can hop on at Madelaines and make it back to Barrio Norte and parts of Palermo. Speaking of cleanliness, etc. Which line is it that has the sparkling clean colectivos with the fancy wheels? I have never had the pleasure.

As for Captain's dilemma, I still think Barrio Norte is a great location for a first time visitor. Pretty much equidistant from Palermo and Centro, a quick jump to the Microcenter, full of whatever one needs, from banks, grocery stores, pharmacies and the like. For a first timer, I would avoid places off the beaten path, like San Telmo. And, if street girls are his game then being near Cordoba and the cross streets downtown would be the prime getting area. I don't like Palermo for a first timer either. Too spread out, and for Captain, no street walkers unless you count the TVs. I understand their loitering area has recently been moved, though I don't know where.

[Cordoba Dan]

Captain, If you decide to stay in Palermo or Las Canitas, you will see undoubtably find lovely chicas in the streets but the working ones, particularly scantily clad and late at night are notorious trannys.

[Daddy Rulz]

Yes the ramales can be challenging and the 60 does indeed come back from Tigre, which is a blessing if you miss the last train. Buy and study the Gia T and use comoviajo.com as mentioned earlier.

It was indeed the first night you met Sofi. She loved you from the moment you slurred out what you read off that handbill taped to the street pole you had been clinging to for balance. Good times indeed. And there were a few jockeys swimming around that glass of whiskey. I never saw a bigger glass in my life.

I have no fucking idea where Islas Canitas is. Now Las Canitas is nothing more than one of the balkanized neighborhoods of Palermo. A very nice one to be sure, full of beautiful waitresses, ex pats, and rich argies. Ask Bad Man (I think he is the artist formally known as Bad Boy) about the street scene there. He owns approximately 40% of the apartments in that area and is an expert in all things related to Las Canitas. (152 has a ramal that goes through it, full of hot little waitresses I might add, that have sore feet from walking and sore butts from pinching that might be open to the charms of a wealthy man that can lift them from that life)

If you want a place with lots of street action pitch a tent in the park or stay in one of the hotels in the center close to brother Dickhead's magic wall.

Dickhead and I have been saying it forever, public transportation in BsAs is fun, challenging, and a great place to meet girls.

[Member #3320]

Dear Friends,

Thank you for the response.

Sorry to bother you guys again but I have three more queries on transportation.

A) How close is Islas Canitas to mongering scene? What would be the plus points of living in Islas Canitas?

B) Strange as it may sound, but I am a extremely big fan of street action. What would be the ideal neighborhood ( Sorry! I am not familiar with street names, for street action?)

I mean as soon as I am out of building and lo behold!! "the street is full of pros swarming all over"! I love that thing v much.

Can brothers / friends advise me which would be the ideal neighborhood for this?

Eg If you guys suggest, its Palmero. Then which Palmero? Palmero Soho or Palmero Viejo? Etc etc.

BTW, I do of course also understand that such neighborhoods are never too safe!

Cc) Finally, what do you guys have to say of Palmero Hollywood & San Telmo? I believe lot of construction is going there! Is it worth staying there? How far from action etc.

Many thanks in advance for the answers.

[Dickhead]

Doggggg I think the 59 is one of the worst buses in BA. What is up with all that meandering through Luis Maria Campos and such? Yeah it goes by the VA hospital. Plus their equipment is substandard. Yeah it does stop right by Catto's but overall their buses are old with squeaky brakes and also twice I have had drivers smoking cigarettes which led to some "issues." Saw that once on the 86 from the airport at 4 AM but these 59 guys were adamant about smoking which really made me enjoy ripping the cigarette from their mouths and throwing it out the window.

[Mike Cockburn]

It happened to me. As far as I can remember it was the 60.

I was going home, and I accidently jumped on a bus (wrong ramal)

I got completely lost and I thought they were going to rob me I'd step off the bus. It was a bit scary, but nothing happened.

I didn't know how to get back and it was rather late too.

So I took a taxi to get home.

Read the small signs on the front of bus.

Ojo, cuidado, with the 60 and the 100 because these have multiple "ramales" or branches and you could end up anywhere.

[MCSE]

There are many colectivos numbers but, I don't know why the 69 does not exist.

69 probably goes from hell to paradise.

[El Perro]

Let us not give short shrift to the 10, the 17 and the Fitty 9. Nice ones to know if you are rambling around Barrio Norte, over to San Telmo via Centro, and points between. I saw a guy with zero (I mean none) legs, hoist himself up, and into, the 10 one night on Maipu. Made it look easy.

[Dickhead]

Ojo, cuidado, with the 60 and the 100 because these have multiple "ramales" or branches and you could end up anywhere. Especially the 60. Some of them go all the way to Tigre. I have had a lot of "interesting experiences" getting on buses I thought I was familiar with and discovering I was on a different "ramal."

I vaguely disremember that night, DR. Wasn't that the first night I met what's her name? But did you think I would need to go the hospital? Plus did I keep my balance or not? Yes I did. I think.

I give you half credit on Puerreydon (should be an accent mark on the o) because you had all the letters and only slightly out of order.

Actually 60 goes through Recoleta (there is a stop at Las Heras and Junin) but 60 goes everywhere and the whole ramal thing is really tough.

Honorable mention goes to 129 which has some rapidos that go to La Plata and are good for getting to the southern zona. Another little known fact is that the 152 has some rapidos that can get you from zona norte to centro pretty quick.

100 also has multiple ramales, three I think, but goes to the Carrefour in Avellaneda and on into zona sur for quite a ways. Catch it on Cerrito.

[Daddy Rulz]

152 fucking goes everywhere.

39, duplicates 152 for Palermo plus has 3 sub routes if you dig Palermo Viejo. Goes right the fuck in front of El Cuartito (if you don't know what that is RTFF)

168, Corrientes side of downtown and also goes everywhere. I was once at a Gudiov presentation out in Villa Puyerredon (how fucking ever you spell that boludo) and the train broke. I went to a pizza place across the street from the train station, came out with some tasty empenadas looked up and low and fucking behold there was the 168 which went a block from my house.

60, not so great for in-town but you can get on it at Plaza Italia and practically go to Paraguay.

100, runs up and down 9 de julio, also goes to Retiro. Take the train downtown from Davies place, get off at Retiro grab the bus to Cordoba and cry because Exedra is closed.

57, downtown then into Recoletta, runs right down Las Herras.

Side note: I once saw Dickhead so drunk he had to wobble back and forth at the street lights like a unicycle to keep his balance waiting for the green. In his defense he had come to see me at my hotel and the floor waiter that my buddy Steve had been seriously overtipping gave him a fucking swimming pool of whiskey.

Maybe that's 5 buses. Try them out though, young chicas don't have taxi money and they ride buses!

[El Perro]

It is Catedral not Cathedral boludo but as a heavy consumer of the 152 bus I agree. The best thing to do is to get on it from the Temple Bar on Marcelo T at closing time. All the drunk chicas from Kilkenny are on it. Plus since it goes way in the fuck out into the provincia you have plenty of time to make your move. And if not it goes right by Oro and Cabildo 2985 and then to a couple of privados in V. Lopez whose addresses I refuse to divulge under any circumstances.

In fact I nominate the 152 for the best bus route in Buenos Aires. La Boca, Retiro, the Triangle, Santa Fe 1707, Santa Fe 3373, Oro, goes right by both the main post office and the international post office, the bus depot, La Rural, the US Embassy, fucker's got it all. If it ain't walking distance from the 152 you probably don't need it.

I'm talking regular walking distance, not Exon walking distance. Exon once took a cab from Bar Castelar to Exedra. True story.

Oh yeah and it goes right by Hospital Argerich so if your friend passes out drunk in the middle of Esmeralda after she drinks up all your money, you can still get home with two pesos in your pocket. Now that night really sucked. And then she tells me that I drink too much? I have never ended up in the hospital. Yet. Detox once for drunk walking but that only lasted 30 seconds.

I would have voted for the 152 without knowing more than half of what DH knows. In addition, the only bus I know that will get you very close to both the Bombonera and Monumental Stadium in Nunez.

[Dickhead]

It is Catedral not Cathedral boludo but as a heavy consumer of the 152 bus I agree. The best thing to do is to get on it from the Temple Bar on Marcelo T at closing time. All the drunk chicas from Kilkenny are on it. Plus since it goes way in the fuck out into the provincia you have plenty of time to make your move. And if not it goes right by Oro and Cabildo 2985 and then to a couple of privados in V. Lopez whose addresses I refuse to divulge under any circumstances.

In fact I nominate the 152 for the best bus route in Buenos Aires. La Boca, Retiro, the Triangle, Santa Fe 1707, Santa Fe 3373, Oro, goes right by both the main post office and the international post office, the bus depot, La Rural, the US Embassy, fucker's got it all. If it ain't walking distance from the 152 you probably don't need it.

I'm talking regular walking distance, not Exon walking distance. Exon once took a cab from Bar Castelar to Exedra. True story.

Oh yeah and it goes right by Hospital Argerich so if your friend passes out drunk in the middle of Esmeralda after she drinks up all your money, you can still get home with two pesos in your pocket. Now that night really sucked. And then she tells me that I drink too much? I have never ended up in the hospital. Yet. Detox once for drunk walking but that only lasted 30 seconds.

[Daddy Rulz]

I wasn't thinking of the Cathedral station (I rarely used it) When I think of PM I always think of the part further down near the Casino which really is more Boca than PM.

I stand on the fact that the 152 is always full of nice trim though.

[MCSE]

On the other hand, Puerto Madero is safe, and central. You can always call a radio taxi service, wait 5 / 15 min at your apartment or the place where you are, if day is nice you can walk to downtown. In the corner of Florida and Avenida de Mayo (2 blocks away from Casa Rosada) you have the green line station (catedral station) from Catedral Station to Plaza Italia it's about 15 min, in cab better to take Libertador Ave it's an indirect ride, but faster, by cab it's about 20 pesos, depending the time of the day, rush hours for everything it's from 6 PM to 8 PM, so it's better to avoid those hours when possible. Mongering areas are spreaded by the city. I would say that downtown it's leader for private apartments during the day, and starting from Puerto Madero you can design a map and do everything by foot, but it's going to take more time to do something like that in Palermo. However, as the fellow mongers advised, Palermo it's a great option to stay as well.