American Politics during the Obama Presidency

[Tres3]

The ACA tax when combined with Obama's other tax rate increases have caused me to decide to work less, which means my income is lower. Ironically this means I will pay less tax. Thank you Mr. Obama!

Until the marginal tax rate that one pays reaches 100%, work still puts money in your pocket. Granted less work means less tax, but it also means less money left over to spend on chicas. Something tells me there is an ulterior motive behind your "working less", and you are just trying to blame ACA and Obama.

Tres3.

[Tiny12]

Now that you found an alternative health plan, how does it compare with your old plan, and it's impact on you. Come on, do us a public service. People are hungry for 1st hand experience with ACA.

Any Bangkok hospitals on the list? Yeah, I know, do your own legwork, but since you are here, er, do us a favor.

Bumrungrad is on the list. Have a look for others: https://www.bluecardworldwide.com/index.cfm?.

I think I will like it better than my old plan. Actually my old plan, offered by a professional organization, threw me in with a bunch of sickies (I'm relatively fit) but with no discount so it wasn't the best deal available. However I was too lazy to shop around.

The ACA is not relevant - I could have purchased the Blue Cross policy years ago if I'd known about it.

As to my personal situation, the ACA is a big bummer. The ACA tax when combined with Obama's other tax rate increases have caused me to decide to work less, which means my income is lower. Ironically this means I will pay less tax. Thank you Mr. Obama!

[Rev BS]

This insurance policy may be worth a look if, like me, you're losing yours at the end of the year. I just signed up for it:

Blue Choice Gold PPO 001 offered by Blue Cross Blue Shield.

The policy provides out of network and international coverage. Their network is very large and includes first class hospitals, for example, Hospital Aleman in Buenos Aires. And Johns Hopkins, M D Anderson, etc.

Now that you found an alternative health plan, how does it compare with your old plan, and it's impact on you. Come on, do us a public service. People are hungry for 1st hand experience with ACA.

Any Bangkok hospitals on the list? Yeah, I know, do your own legwork, but since you are here, er, do us a favor.

[Tiny12]

This insurance policy may be worth a look if, like me, you're losing yours at the end of the year. I just signed up for it:

Blue Choice Gold PPO 001 offered by Blue Cross Blue Shield.

The policy provides out of network and international coverage. Their network is very large and includes first class hospitals, for example, Hospital Aleman in Buenos Aires. And Johns Hopkins, M D Anderson, etc.

[Punter 127]

I will wait till tomorrow to look in the mirror. For you, I would advise otherwise, the mirror might crack.

Thanks, when you look in that mirror tomorrow remind yourself that you still have insurance and I don't, see how pretty you are then.

[Rev BS]

There's a lot of things you don't know!Funny thing is it was never about health care with you. It's power, control, an agenda, and nannyism.

I will wait till tomorrow to look in the mirror. For you, I would advise otherwise, the mirror might crack. You are priceless.

[Punter 127]

There's a lot of things you don't know!

Yes, the great and illustrious Howard Dean, we shall see. But it was never about health care with you, anyway.

Funny thing is it was never about health care with you. It's power, control, an agenda, and nannyism.

[Rev BS]

There is little doubt in my mind as to what you personally would do. As for the "Captains" adjustment of the sails, I find it reminiscent of the adjustments made by the Captain of the Titanic, unfortunately also like the Titanic it's to little and to late. To complicate matters even more what the "Captain" just did has a little Constitution problem, you do remember that dusty old thing called the Constitution don't you? Well "The Take Care Clause of the Constitution absolutely forbids any president from doing exactly what Obama did Thursday.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...constitutional

Yes, the great and illustrious Howard Dean, we shall see. But it was never about health care with you, anyway.

[Punter 127]

Just apply it to ACA, the Captain is already adjusting the sails. If I was the captain, the mutineers would be walking the plank!

There is little doubt in my mind as to what you personally would do. As for the "Captains" adjustment of the sails, I find it reminiscent of the adjustments made by the Captain of the Titanic, unfortunately also like the Titanic it's to little and to late. To complicate matters even more what the "Captain" just did has a little Constitution problem, you do remember that dusty old thing called the Constitution don't you? Well "The Take Care Clause of the Constitution absolutely forbids any president from doing exactly what Obama did Thursday.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...constitutional

[WorldTravel69]

It did not meet the requirement of a good plan!

"In other words, they were only offered only sub-prime coverage, aka shitty coverage.

They should offer new coverage to them, that would give them the best of Health Care coverage.

Gee, why is that so to hard to do? Because Profits do not Allow that!"

"Dccpa:
Do the Math, it will be Cheaper for the people, than Paul Ryan's Plan.
Where is The Republican Health Care Plan That Will Work for all of Us. Not Just Benefit The Insurance Companies?
They Do Not Have One, why because the party is Split into many fractions. The reason the Tea Party! The know nothing about Politics Party.
Come on Dump Them."

In other words, they only offered only sub-prime coverage, aka shitty coverage.

They should offer new coverage to them, that gives them the best of Health Care coverage.

Gee, why is that so to hard to do? Profits do not Allow that!

Dccpa:
Do the Math, it will be Cheaper for the people, than Paul Ryan's Plan.
Where is The Republican Health Care Plan That Will Work for all of Us. Not Just Benefit The Insurance Companies?
They Do Not Have One, why because the party is Split into many fractions. The reason the Tea Party! The know nothing about Politics.
Come on Dump Them.

PS : Jackson: Sorry I Edited This So Many Times.

[Esten]

IBM only cancelled it's plan for some retirees. It was replaced by an alternative. There is no evidence this move was due to ACA itself and would not have happened otherwise. From some posts, you'd think the ACA caused employers to cancel all healthcare insurance and leave people out in the cold. That's not the real story.

However, the implementation of ACA provides a convenient excuse for some employers to decrease their healthcare costs, and bank more profits which can be used to support increased dividend payments. Don't think for a second that Wall Street isn't behind the decisions of publically traded companies like IBM and HD to increase profits at the expense of workers.

Tiny I commend you for giving one of the more balanced perspectives from the right. However, you mis-stated one of my points. An IPO is not leeching. The leeching is the billions and billions of interest and dividend payments that individuals and corporations pay to Wall Street every year. In turn, Wall Street mostly uses these funds to play in their rigged casino, further multiplying their profits, the Twitter IPO being one example.

[WorldTravel69]

In other words, they only offered only sub-prime coverage, aka shitty coverage.

They should offer new coverage to them, that gives them the best of Health Care coverage.

Gee, why is that so to hard to do? Profits do not Allow that!

Dccpa:
Do the Math, it will be Cheaper for the people, than Paul Ryan's Plan.
Where is The Republican Health Care Plan That Will Work for all of Us. Not Just Benefit The Insurance Companies?
They Do Not Have One, why because the party is Split into many fractions. The reason the Tea Party! The know nothing about Politics.
Come on Dump Them.

It is a hell of a lot more than 5 mm people. IBM, HOME DEPOT, GE, etc., etc., etc., have all cancelled their plans. My plan was cancelled. The person who sublets from me even had his Medicare supplement policy cancelled. I know of a lot of people who have had their insurance cancelled.

Today's announcement is worthless for most people. The insurance companies can offer the policies, but they don't have to. My idiotic governor chose the federal exchange, so what are the odds he will reinstate the state plan that was cancelled? I would love for Obummercare to be cancelled, but it isn't going to happen. It will end up as another Federal program that runs at a deficit in a country that can't pay for all the deficit programs we already have commited to.

[Rev BS]

Change create fear, and the insurance industry knows this. They are making a killing, and they are not going to walk away without a big fight. They are not run by fools. They have the means & ability to shape policies and and influence legislation.

And who are we? We are like the chickens who goes into a frenzy when the corn is thrown into the yard. For all the cackling and posturing, most end up with stepping in shit and are happy with it.

[Dccpa]

Somebody kick the jukebox, it keeps playing little dreamer dream on, over and over and over.


Yes you should be embarrassed by the start, but how will these changes you speak of come about without new legislation? Even Democrats are starting to run from ObamaCare.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...Landrieu-Udall

What about the five plus million that have lost their health care insurance, what will they do while you get ObamaCare “humming”?

How many people will be canceled when the employer mandate kicks in?

You should be ashamed that you haven't expressed concern for the people who have been canceled, and what about the people that don't qualify for a subsidy but for whatever reason can't afford the increased premiums? Remember ObamaCare only looks at your AGI.

And what gives the government the right to dictate to people what coverage they have to purchase?

I think before it's all said and done ObamaCare will go the way of prohibition.

It is a hell of a lot more than 5 mm people. IBM, HOME DEPOT, GE, etc., etc., etc., have all cancelled their plans. My plan was cancelled. The person who sublets from me even had his Medicare supplement policy cancelled. I know of a lot of people who have had their insurance cancelled.

Today's announcement is worthless for most people. The insurance companies can offer the policies, but they don't have to. My idiotic governor chose the federal exchange, so what are the odds he will reinstate the state plan that was cancelled? I would love for Obummercare to be cancelled, but it isn't going to happen. It will end up as another Federal program that runs at a deficit in a country that can't pay for all the deficit programs we already have commited to.

[Rev BS]

"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails."

Just apply it to ACA, the Captain is already adjusting the sails. If I was the captain, the mutineers would be walking the plank!