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  1. #6417

    This is what I see happening to the Government

    The New Political System.

    http://billmoyers.com/2015/03/25/new-american-order/

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldTravel69  [View Original Post]
    It is not the way you say it is.

    It is Government by Big Business, for Big Business.

    Buy a politician today.

  2. #6416
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    Posts: 313

    Freedom v. Altruism

    Quote Originally Posted by RevBS  [View Original Post]
    But do you have a heart? Anyway, it's a personal choice. Up to you.
    Contrary to some accusations, I am not superior nor a saint.
    What an outstanding defense of altruism.

    Another try to remove the altruist's head's from their asses.

    https://drhurd.com/ohio-gov-john-kas...ns-are-losers/

    Don B.

  3. #6415
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    Haha. I just read the Sri Lanka bit. Just hedge accordingly and enjoy the ride. The world is fucked 6 ways from Sunday. We are living in the midst of wwIII and the great decoupling. Either we all die ( those who advocate we stand up to Russia ) or there is a slow great paradigm shift. No two ways about it. I personally enjoy watching those with cognitive dissonance and paradigm paralysis. Its quite entertaining from an academic standpoint to say the least.

  4. #6414
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Reverend, Two people on separate occasions in the island nation where you were transiting the other day told me something like "Forty years ago, we were a wealthier country than Hong Kong/Singapore. Now look what happened." What happened was that Sri Lanka pursued economic policies like Europe. Industries were nationalized and taxes went up to among the highest in the developing world. And corruption remained a fixture in government. They blew it.
    I profess no knowledge of Sri Lanka's economic story except to say that everything about Sri Lanka in the last 50 years has to be taken within the context of the civil strife that plague and consume the life out of Sri Lanka at every level.

    If it were not for China's emergence as an economic power & leader during this time, what you describe of Sri Lanka is close to universal in lesser developed countries. And don't laugh, but Brazil might even fall into that category. And here, they are staging the Olympic Games next year! Correct me if I'm mistaken.

    But for sure, I will be visiting Sri Lanka very soon.

  5. #6413
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    Did anyone notice how the US just bent over for Eurasia over the AIIB?

    Even the krauts told the US to buzz off. Now the US wants to cooperate. Lol. That's what these fools get for playing checkers with people who are masters at the long game. It seems everybody knows which way the wind is blowing. Except the rhetorical tards.

  6. #6412
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    Posts: 1017

    You have a brain!

    Quote Originally Posted by DonB  [View Original Post]
    A challenge to the altruists in this forum, read and debate this.

    https://www.theobjectivestandard.com...cal-fallacies/

    Don B.
    But do you have a heart? Anyway, it's a personal choice. Up to you.

    Contrary to some accusations, I am not superior nor a saint.

  7. #6411
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    Altrusim

    Quote Originally Posted by RevBS  [View Original Post]
    The Greater Good is a when an individual or group is willing to give up up, compromise, sacrifice their right/gain/benefit in order that a Greater Number of people will gain from that action. Like dividing your loaf of bread. It actually starts when you treat and look at another human being as your brother.

    Just look around you, there is so much harshness.

    It is not crap.
    A challenge to the altruists in this forum, read and debate this.

    https://www.theobjectivestandard.com...cal-fallacies/

    Don B.

  8. #6410
    Quote Originally Posted by RevBS  [View Original Post]
    The Greater Good is a when an individual or group is willing to give up up, compromise, sacrifice their right/gain/benefit in order that a Greater Number of people will gain from that action. Like dividing your loaf of bread. It actually starts when you treat and look at another human being as your brother.
    I have no desire to wade into an argument between two people I respect. This is just meant to be a possible explanation of a misunderstanding that I think some people have who are left of center. Libertarians believe that free markets and capitalism have lifted billions out of poverty, and we believe the policies we favor will benefit the greatest number of people. This is counter-intuitive, because Social Democrats and socialists would appear to have morality on their side. That is, how can businesses and people, competing against each other and pursuing their own selfish ends, create greater prosperity for more people than a society based on sharing and equality?

    Reverend, Two people on separate occasions in the island nation where you were transiting the other day told me something like "Forty years ago, we were a wealthier country than Hong Kong/Singapore. Now look what happened." What happened was that Sri Lanka pursued economic policies like Europe. Industries were nationalized and taxes went up to among the highest in the developing world. And corruption remained a fixture in government. They blew it.

  9. #6409
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    Stop being in love with yourself

    Quote Originally Posted by Punter127  [View Original Post]
    I'll put your snide (school yard level) remarks aside.

    Judging strictly from what you have written here you seem to have a misconception of the Supreme Courts role, unfortunately you're not alone.

    "The Supreme Court is the final judge in all cases involving laws of Congress, and the highest law of all...the Constitution. The Supreme Court, however, is far from all-powerful. Its power is limited by the other two branches of government.".

    So the Supreme Court is not

    BTW this "greater good" crapola that you preach is just an argument used by one group to gain control over another.

    I'm Proud to be and American, how about you?
    The Greater Good is a when an individual or group is willing to give up up, compromise, sacrifice their right/gain/benefit in order that a Greater Number of people will gain from that action. Like dividing your loaf of bread. It actually starts when you treat and look at another human being as your brother.

    Just look around you, there is so much harshness.

    It is not crap.

  10. #6408

    I like what you say, but..

    It is not the way you say it is.

    It is Government by Big Business, for Big Business.

    Buy a politician today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Punter127  [View Original Post]
    I'll put your snide (school yard level) remarks aside.

    Judging strictly from what you have written here you seem to have a misconception of the Supreme Courts role, unfortunately you're not alone.

    "The Supreme Court is the final judge in all cases involving laws of Congress, and the highest law of all...the Constitution. The Supreme Court, however, is far from all-powerful. Its power is limited by the other two branches of government.".

    So the Supreme Court is not here to deal with "our ever daily changing world" but rather to make sure "our ever daily changing world" complies with the highest man made law of all...the Constitution.

    I think part of the problem is you just don't understand our system, you (and others) don't seem to understand that we live in a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy, not even a Representative Democracy, but a Republic.

    Maybe this will help;.

    If you really care about the little guy (individual liberty) and Minorities you should be very happy we are a Republic.

    The link has a more in depth explanation that everyone should read and try to understand.

    http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/Am...ts/demrep.html

    BTW this "greater good" crapola that you preach is just an argument used by one group to gain control over another.

    I'm Proud to be and American, how about you?

  11. #6407
    I'll put your snide (school yard level) remarks aside.

    Quote Originally Posted by RevBS  [View Original Post]
    While 1776 will exist and will remain the core of our existence, the Supreme Court is here to deal with our ever daily changing world.
    Judging strictly from what you have written here you seem to have a misconception of the Supreme Courts role, unfortunately you're not alone.

    "The Supreme Court is the final judge in all cases involving laws of Congress, and the highest law of all...the Constitution. The Supreme Court, however, is far from all-powerful. Its power is limited by the other two branches of government.".

    So the Supreme Court is not here to deal with "our ever daily changing world" but rather to make sure "our ever daily changing world" complies with the highest man made law of all...the Constitution.

    I think part of the problem is you just don't understand our system, you (and others) don't seem to understand that we live in a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy, not even a Representative Democracy, but a Republic.

    Maybe this will help;.

    The chief characteristic and distinguishing feature of a Democracy is: Rule by Omnipotent Majority. In a Democracy, The Individual, and any group of Individuals composing any Minority, have no protection against the unlimited power of The Majority. It is a case of Majority-over-Man.

    A Republic, on the other hand, has a very different purpose and an entirely different form, or system, of government. Its purpose is to control The Majority strictly, as well as all others among the people, primarily to protect The Individuals God-given, unalienable rights and therefore for the protection of the rights of The Minority, of all minorities, and the liberties of people in general. The definition of a Republic is: a constitutionally limited government of the representative type, created by a written Constitution--by the people and changeable (from its original meaning) by them only by its amendment--with its powers divided between three separate Branches: Executive, Legislative and Judicial. Here the term "the people" means, of course, the electorate.
    If you really care about the little guy (individual liberty) and Minorities you should be very happy we are a Republic.

    The link has a more in depth explanation that everyone should read and try to understand.

    http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/Am...ts/demrep.html

    BTW this "greater good" crapola that you preach is just an argument used by one group to gain control over another.

    I'm Proud to be and American, how about you?

  12. #6406
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    Posts: 1017
    Quote Originally Posted by Punter127  [View Original Post]
    Maybe you would like to tell us how you feel about the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Did you ever read them? After you finish that look up the word Liberty.
    While 1776 will exist and will remain the core of our existence, the Supreme Court is here to deal with our ever daily changing world.

    I look up Liberty, and I saw you in a white strait jacket!

    I hope you have a sense of humor, we already know you have a high intellect.

  13. #6405
    Quote Originally Posted by ElAlamoPalermo  [View Original Post]
    The title of this thread should be changed to "Jackson and His Lackey Fascist Fan-Boy's Obama Hate Group". An alternative thread title could be "Jackson and Fellow Sufferers of Obama Derangement Syndrome Support Group".
    That's rich El Alamo Palermo. Obama is an economic fascist, which by extension means you are too, since you unquestioningly praise everything he says and does.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjPI6no5ng

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_fascism

  14. #6404

    Canals

    You are right there are canals all over California. The problem is the they getting very dry. Our mountains did not get much snow in the last four years. Our winter season is over for this year.

    I am talking about pipelines from States that have lots of rain. Washington gets lots of rain, Oregon gets more than us.

    I am just suggesting a water line for emergencies like now.

    It would be nice if we could get a lot of the snow from the East coast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2  [View Original Post]
    When it is water being transported they call them canals. They are everywhere.

  15. #6403
    The title of this thread should be changed to "Jackson and His Lackey Fascist Fan-Boy's Obama Hate Group". An alternative thread title could be "Jackson and Fellow Sufferers of Obama Derangement Syndrome Support Group".

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