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03-19-15 18:03 #6387
Posts: 776Originally Posted by RevBS [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by WorldTravel69 [View Original Post]
We've debated the oil pipeline again and again, and, respectfully, you're dead wrong. The increase in worldwide carbon emissions, if any, from the Keystone pipeline would be insignificant. It's safer and cheaper transporting oil from Canada and North Dakota by pipeline than by train. We're encouraging the Canadians to build pipelines to their west coast, for export to China, and to eastern Canada. This would be negative both for our energy security and jobs. You don't think we should get involved in Middle East wars, right? Well why don't you understand that having an additional 700,000 barrels a day of production from Canada shipped to USA Gulf Coast refineries makes us less likely to send young men to die in places like Iraq?
As to the fish from Thailand, there are antibiotics in chicken and beef produced in the USA. The latest studies indicate that people who eat vegetarian diets with fish are healthier than strict vegetarians or meat eaters. We're better off having affordable shrimp and tuna packaged in Thailand than not having it. It's better for peoples' health and better for their pocket books.
Thanks,
Sentinel Tiny.
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03-19-15 13:09 #6386
Posts: 1017Another briliant Obama idea!
Mandatory voting. Surprise Ted Cruz did not think of it first.
http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/...datory-voting/
And why not put it on the weekend if Big Business is so vehemently against a public holiday.
Oh, I forgot, we have football on.
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03-19-15 07:38 #6385
Posts: 247Deranged Tea Partier
Maybe I should have put this in the joke section. Watch Rick Santorum squirm at the rantings of someone who would be right at home here. Although I do agree with her about lobbyists. Never noticed that nuke in Charleston though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdAYYGUP-pA
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03-19-15 03:20 #6384
Posts: 2700Pipelines
I am in agreement for a pipeline from Canada and Alaska.
But not for oil, but we do and will need is Water.
But my local politician said that there is not any profit in it, so the Republicans will not vote for what is needed for the people, only Big Business.
Can you right wingers live on Oil? And say there is no Climate Change and we do not need Clean Water?
Sure you can buy bottle water, that no one checks that it is Okay for you and I.
A lot of fish that we eat comes from Thailand. Only 2 % gets checked.
Check this out:
http://economyincrisis.org/content/d...dangerous-fish
http://www.youtube.com/embed/h1nEPzsFpc0?feature=player
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03-19-15 01:11 #6383
Posts: 1740Hey Rev, stick around though. Just don't use the words "America" and "American" and you should be fine LOL. Honestly, I have never taken your comments like Jackson did, they are mild compared to much of the mud thrown around here. Mud which in some cases (cough) some folks (cough cough) can't even back up when asked.
Tiny- yes my point in mentioning the petition was simply to point out how much disapproval there has been to the Iran letter. That petition is now up to 315,000 signatures. While it is no longer the top story, it is still getting mentioned in the news cycle a week later. Man, did you see some of these stories and editorials?
Germany lashes US Republicans over Iran letter (AFP)
Tom Cotton picked apart by Army general over mutinous Iran letter (Washington Post)
47 Senators Stomp On The Constitution (AZ Republic: Editorial)
GOP Senators Try A Reckless Move To Stop Iran Nuclear Talks (San Francisco Chronicle Editorial)
Senate Saboteurs (Kentucky The Courier Journal Editorial)
GOP Letter To Iran Is A Reckless Intrusion Into Nuclear Talks (MA Boston Globe Editorial)
GOP Letter To Iran Disgraces America (Detroit Free Press Editorial)
Hate Mail: Senators Seek To Sabotage Obamas Foreign Policy (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Editorial)
GOP senators' DUMB-destructive letter (Massachusetts Daily News Editorial)
Here's a good rundown of the nationwide coverage:
Senate letter on Iran derided coast to coast as a "political abomination.".
https://storify.com/ReThinkDefense/s...coast-to-coast
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03-17-15 19:49 #6382
Posts: 1017I will leave you in peace
I don't want you to go into cardiac arrest.
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03-17-15 18:06 #6381
Posts: 2556
Venues: 398Originally Posted by RevBS [View Original Post]
I want you to stop posting racist anti-American comments here!
Instead, I suggest that perhaps you might consider participating in the al jazeera website forum where you will be welcomed as a hero.
Thanks,
Jax
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03-16-15 17:51 #6380
Posts: 1017Originally Posted by Jackson [View Original Post]
If you just want me to stop posting, why don't you just say so.
Extinction???? And you forgot to include American women.
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03-16-15 16:33 #6379
Posts: 2556
Venues: 398Racist comments by Rev BS against white American men
Originally Posted by RevBS [View Original Post]Originally Posted by RevBS [View Original Post]Originally Posted by RevBS [View Original Post]Originally Posted by RevBS [View Original Post]
Rev, I'm going to start calling you out on this racist/sexist hate-speech every time I see it.
Enough is enough.
Thanks,
Jax.
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03-16-15 12:34 #6378
Posts: 776Esten, Then why the applause in your post below for the 255,000 people who signed the petition to prosecute the 47 senators for treason? O.K., I guess I misunderstood. You were commenting on popular disapproval of the Senators' letter, but don't believe they should be imprisoned.
Writing what you already know, if an organization wants to primarily promote political candidates it will organize as a TAX EXEMPT PAC, instead of a 501(c)(4). If a group wants to promote a particular issue like reproductive rights (Planned Parenthood), the Environment (Sierra Club) or lower taxes and lower government spending (Tea Party groups), and will be involved in politics in doing so, it forms a 501(c)(4). If a 501(c)(4) like Moveon.org Civic Action, or President Obama's Organization for Action, or Citizens for Tax Justice were stonewalled by the IRS, you'd be screaming bloody murder.
You need to consider whether partisanship is blinding you. What's frightening is that it did blind President Obama and at least four senators, who made pronouncements, or wrote letters to the IRS, encouraging it to clamp down on 501(c)(4)'s that they disagreed with.
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03-16-15 03:48 #6377
Posts: 125Returning to BA
I am so sorry I know this is not the place to make this post but I just dont know were. I make several trips to BA a year. I would like to plan my next trip to coincide with a party at jacksons....Jackson if you would be so kind as to give me a heads up on your next party if its any time other than the first 2 weeks in May I will be there .... Regard.
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03-16-15 00:24 #6376
Posts: 1740Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
You believed it was appropriate that the IRS prevent Tea Party groups from exercising free political speech.
Now you have a problem with 47 Senators writing a letter, because they're Republicans.
So you believe the 47 Senators should be prosecuted for treason? That's interesting.
Tiny I appreciate you making the effort for some real debate and discussion. But stop mis-characterizing my statements and positions. It's dishonest.
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03-14-15 15:36 #6375
Posts: 776Originally Posted by RevBS [View Original Post]
If indeed Iran does become the dominant power in the Middle East, expect the region to slip into even worse instability. Sunni's outnumber Shias, and aren't going to sit idly by. Look for the Saudis to develop a nuclear weapon if Iran does. I don't know what the best solution is, for the Iranian problem. Unfortunately all the USA's potential strategies in dealing with the situation have weaknesses.
The USA's outsized involvement in the region hasn't been solely on account of Israel. Oil has played a bigger part in our interventions. Tom Steyer, a Democrat, is now spending more on politics than Adelson and getting a lot more bang for his buck. Steyer has succeeded in preventing the Keystone pipeline, at least for the time being. Keystone and further development of USA oil and gas resources, opposed by Steyer, would make it where our leaders didn't feel compelled to become involved in every conflagration in the Middle East. To be fair, Steyer would argue renewable energy would achieve the same ends. The problem is that renewables won't be viable on a large scale for decades.
Still, I don't believe a muzzle should be put on Steyer, what he should be allowed to say or who he should be allowed to support. Or Adelson. Or Netanyahu speaking to Congress, or Congressmen writing letters. When government starts doing that, it's the first step on the road to totalitarianism. (Reverend, this last part isn't directed to you. You believe in looking at all sides of an issue, and change your mind from time to time based on the evidence.).
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03-14-15 11:40 #6374
Posts: 2700So What?
65 million voted for him.
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php
Originally Posted by Jackson [View Original Post]
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03-14-15 01:12 #6373
Posts: 1017Stonewall Jackson
Are you related?