American Politics during the Obama Presidency

[Punter 127]

Top 5 O-Care stories to watch

“The healthcare law faced a very tough year in 2013, but that could pale in comparison to what happens in 2014.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch...-watch-in-2014

And, since Democrats (Like WT 69) take so much joy from talking about how ObamaCare was modeled after RomneyCare in Massachusetts. While it's true they both “individual mandate” it’s not the same thing.

Massachusetts facts:
Massachusetts has the highest insurance cost in the nation;
Half of primary care doctors and 55% of specialists are not taking new patients and wait time for an appointment is increasing.

Regardless of the name calling by those on the left 2014 is going to be a long year for ObamaCare, and we’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg.


Just another "right wing lackey” report.

[Jackson]

In Argentina, these subsidies come from tax payers like me through paying IVA, IIBB, Cargas Sociales, impuesto al cheque, and ABL. Although it may be incomprehensible to Jackson and his right wing lackies on the forum, I have no problem with the fact that my tax proceeds, at least in part, go to subsidize other people's healthcare, including Jackson's. Even though Jackson is older than I am and arguably has a much higher risk profile than I do due to his dietary and lifestyle choices, I believe Jackson deserves affordable healthcare and I am willing to contribute to it.

Hypothetically speaking, IF you had any partners in your business, then it would be fair to say that your partners also get "credit" for paying part of these taxes, given that they were business expenses that reduced the profits to all partners.

Just say'n...

Jax

[Don B]

"James Madison, the acknowledged father of the Constitution, explained in Federalist Paper No. 45: "The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce. . . . The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State.".

Our Founders' constitutional vision of limited federal government has been consigned to the dustbin of history.".

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...#ixzz2pBzGzwRD.

Don B.

[Tiny12]

In Argentina, these subsidies come from tax payers like me through paying IVA, IIBB, Cargas Sociales, impuesto al cheque, and ABL. Although it may be incomprehensible to Jackson and his right wing lackies on the forum, I have no problem with the fact that my tax proceeds, at least in part, go to subsidize other people's healthcare, including Jackson's. Even though Jackson is older than I am and arguably has a much higher risk profile than I do due to his dietary and lifestyle choices, I believe Jackson deserves affordable healthcare and I am willing to contribute to it.

Then you and Jackson agree. He has held out the health care system in Argentina, part of which is paid with tax proceeds, as a model for the USA.

This is just the opinion of one "right wing" lackey, but I'd have no problem subsidizing other people's healthcare to some extent, provided the money were spent efficiently. In the USA it's not. Obamacare is doubling down on a failed system.

[Rock Harders]

From the magic Subsidy Fairy, of course.

The best part is that, according to Rock, I will somehow "benefit enormously" from these subsidies.

In Argentina, these subsidies come from tax payers like me through paying IVA, IIBB, Cargas Sociales, impuesto al cheque, and ABL. Although it may be incomprehensible to Jackson and his right wing lackies on the forum, I have no problem with the fact that my tax proceeds, at least in part, go to subsidize other people's healthcare, including Jackson's. Even though Jackson is older than I am and arguably has a much higher risk profile than I do due to his dietary and lifestyle choices, I believe Jackson deserves affordable healthcare and I am willing to contribute to it.

[Jackson]

Now where do think that money is gong to come from? Taxes maybe?

From the magic Subsidy Fairy, of course.

The best part is that, according to Rock, I will somehow "benefit enormously" from these subsidies.

[Member #4112]

Well here we are in the Brave New World of ObamaCare.

I have to laugh at both the insurance companies and the hospital corporations as they reap what they have sown by jumping on the ObamaCare bandwagon.

When ObamaCare was being pushed through:

The hospital corporations were on board because they would no longer have to do cost shifting from those who paid for care and the indigent care they were FORCED to provide via their emergency room services and the admissions which followed because now everyone would have insurance coverage.

The insurance companies were on board because they were about to receive the gift of everyone being FORCED to have comprehensive coverage rather they needed it or not thereby providing them with new clients at higher premium rates.

Now reality is setting in with more than 6 Million folks losing their bare bones catastrophic policies but then getting a pass by Obama, the young invincibles who are to pay the bulk of the premiums are not signing up for coverage, and the majority of those getting on ObamaCare are the older and sicker folks requiring immediate outlays of funds for treatment. Bottom line is there is no money in the kitty to pay claims. Now where do think that money is gong to come from? Taxes maybe?

[Tiny12]

Reverend, Please note that your beloved Democrats are as responsible as anyone for corporate welfare. And the "teabaggers" that you malign are the ones who want to STOP handouts to big business. I agree with you about high prices in the drug industry, which result from anti-competitive practices and patent laws that are too generous.

[Tiny12]

You are not wrong; Jackson is in fact a non. Contributing resident of Argentina and he benefits enormously from government subsidies even though he refuses to admit so. Disclaimer: I freely admit that I also benefit significantly from government subsidies in Argentina, however, I pay about $100,000 USD in taxes annually to the Argentine government and employ many dozens of people, so at least I contribute.

3. Without detailing my business activities here in Argentina, Rock knows fully well that his "contributing nothing" comment is completely erroneous. In addition, given that I pay Argentina import taxes, Argentine sales taxes, Argentine utility taxes, Argentine property taxes, and Argentine income taxes, one could hardly claim that I am "leeching" by living here.
Once again, facts aren't important to liberals, only emotion is important.

The majority of successful leftist businessmen, whether in the United States, Venezuela, or Argentina, take advantage of the system. They either want to justify that they're the good guys in their own minds, or they're just plain corrupt.

So, Rock Harders, do the subsidies that benefit you exceed the Argentine taxes you pay? And, on the subject of taxes, do you pay yours correctly? Are you correctly reporting your Argentine income on your Argentine and US tax returns? Are you paying US income tax on all the interest and rental income received by your Argentine company and any loans you've taken out, as required by US law? Or are you another lefty like Leona Helmsley who believes only stupid people pay high taxes, and money grows on trees to provide subsidies for your business?

[BadMan]

You are not wrong; Jackson is in fact a non. Contributing resident of Argentina and he benefits enormously from government subsidies even though he refuses to admit so. Disclaimer: I freely admit that I also benefit significantly from government subsidies in Argentina, however, I pay about $100,000 USD in taxes annually to the Argentine government and employ many dozens of people, so at least I contribute.

Isn't Jackson in a similair situation as you?

And by the way, fuckk Obama care. Its worthless beyond belief. It was written by the same insurance companies it was supposed to rein in.

[Daddy Rulz]

MB the answer is simple but you choose to ignore it by looking at the effects and not the cause of the problem, which is career politicians. The Founding Fathers did not intend for folks to come to Washington and STAY, but to come serve a term then return to their "day job" back home. The simple answer is term limits for both the House and Senate, but I doubt the political will exists.

But bigger than Dallas we sure as hell agree on this!

[Rock Harders]

Jax, of course everyone is entitled to an opinion!. I was responding to RH's comments about you where he basically said you were a non contributing resident of Argentina. I am wrong after I read your response to RH. I know this blog is good for discussion and it can get really interesting. You obviously do not like Obama Care or his other policies. Is that that the reason why you live in Argentina as opposed to the US?

You are not wrong; Jackson is in fact a non. Contributing resident of Argentina and he benefits enormously from government subsidies even though he refuses to admit so. Disclaimer: I freely admit that I also benefit significantly from government subsidies in Argentina, however, I pay about $100,000 USD in taxes annually to the Argentine government and employ many dozens of people, so at least I contribute.

[Toymann]

Not been here for quite some time, shame what has evolved. You get what you reap. RH thinks two million signed up for Obamacare, not accurately pointing out that over half are medicaid recipients, what is the color of the sky in your world. Spoken like a 30 year old who hasn't been resident in the US for many years. Thanks for playing! I only ask one question, who pays for all this, at the end of the day, After reading this thread, there appears to be no mention of the millions that have been cancelled because their plans didn't cover "pediatric dentistry".

More to come in September 2014. Enjoy being out of touch with America boys.

Monger on Dudes.

Toymann out!

[Rev BS]

I buy one non. Formulary medication mail order from england. It arrives from England in a ox that says made in the USA. In the USA, walmat charges almost $500, from England including express shipping it costs $248.

The USA can be fixed to a certain extent, but the political will must exist. Campaign financing must be reformed. The current system of pack finacing to ensure corp free speach has produced many unanticipated consequences. The tea party financed my the koch brothers, not any grass roots movements of millions of people sending in $5, has been primarying traditional conservatives to replace them with tea party folks. Main stream republicans and dems are both forced to vote their doners' will to ensure money for re. Election.

We now have a political system where CORPORATIONS control the government, and in turn, the people. On this board, we have people demanding for smaller government, yet at the same time, defending BIG BUSINESS and their practices. How dysfunctional can you be? The only issue we should be concern about is good government (as in Thailand and elsewhere). There is no long term planning or strategies anymore. It's all about winning the next election. And really, if you look closely, the "free market" upon which America was built, is not so "free" anymore.

So where is this wave taking us? This is a cycle of evolving natural states. Following ABUNDANCE (after World War II), comes GREED (70's, 80's), then CORRUPTION (now). Then COLLAPSE. Finally, there will be RECOVERY, and then the whole cycle will begin again. Just look at all the great empires, it's the same story. And the American Empire will be no different. UNLESS?

Not to worry, I don't think most of us will live to see the United States of America reborn as a series of smaller nation states. The golden era still have enough luster to see us, and in particular, me, out in comfortable fashion. Tomorrow, I am going to take out some of the 25% profit that the Dow made in 2013.

P.S. This is an opinion piece based on several articles I have been reading of which I have not credited. Originally, I was just going to write about Corporate Greed, and the prices that MB had to pay for his drugs. But then, we will have the usual chorus of how much the drug companies spend on research & innovation, and the justification for bankrupting us.

[Quality Time]

How liberal of you to attack the messenger.

Nevertheless, I'm still trying to understand your criticism. Are you suggesting that because (as you suppose) I rent rooms to personal acquaintances that I'm somehow not entitled to an opinion as to where my tax money is being spent?

Anyway, if you knew me personally you'd know how uninformed your comment is.

Thanks,
.
Jax.

Jax, of course everyone is entitled to an opinion!. I was responding to RH's comments about you where he basically said you were a non contributing resident of Argentina. I am wrong after I read your response to RH. I know this blog is good for discussion and it can get really interesting. You obviously do not like Obama Care or his other policies. Is that that the reason why you live in Argentina as opposed to the US?