Thread: American Politics during the Obama Presidency
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12-31-13 19:47 #5112
Posts: 751Mongers-.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...2-million.html
Two million now enrolled in "Obamacare".
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12-31-13 18:07 #5111
Posts: 912The answer is simple
MB the answer is simple but you choose to ignore it by looking at the effects and not the cause of the problem, which is career politicians. The Founding Fathers did not intend for folks to come to Washington and STAY, but to come serve a term then return to their "day job" back home. The simple answer is term limits for both the House and Senate, but I doubt the political will exists.
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12-31-13 17:16 #5110
Posts: 1064Our legislation is controlled by lobyists & campaign finacing
I buy one non. Formulary medication mail order from england. It arrives from England in a ox that says made in the USA. In the USA, walmat charges almost $500, from England including express shipping it costs $248.
The USA can be fixed to a certain extent, but the political will must exist. Campaign financing must be reformed. The current system of pack finacing to ensure corp free speach has produced many unanticipated consequences. The tea party financed my the koch brothers, not any grass roots movements of millions of people sending in $5, has been primarying traditional conservatives to replace them with tea party folks. Main stream republicans and dems are both forced to vote their doners' will to ensure money for re. Election.
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12-31-13 16:58 #5109
Posts: 776Miami Bob, What's difficult to understand is how the USA is at the top of the charts in terms of how much we pay, per capita after adjusting for purchasing power, for education and health care. Actually for health care we pay 50% more than any other country. Yet we don't live as long, have more health problems, and have poorly educated children. How is throwing more federal government money at problems going to solve them?
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12-31-13 15:55 #5108
Posts: 313Subsidies
Originally Posted by RockHarders [View Original Post]
Don B.
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12-31-13 15:45 #5107
Posts: 911Originally Posted by RockHarders [View Original Post]
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12-31-13 15:28 #5106
Posts: 751Originally Posted by Jackson [View Original Post]
Your "private" health care policy is without a doubt subsidized by the Argentine government; 90% of the doctors working in "private" medical facilities went to "public" medical school (typically la UBA, "free", I.e. SUBSIDIZED tuition); had these doctors gone to "private" medical school and needed to take out loans, they would have to charge you significantly more for their services. YOUR fees are less because the Argentine government SUBSIDIZED the education of the doctors who attend to YOU. Furthermore, all hospital employees use public transportation which, of course, is HIGHLY SUBSIDIZED; if these hospital employees were paying market rates for public transportation they would need to be paid higher salaries, which of course would lead to higher rates for YOU, again YOU benefiting from government SUBSIDIES. In addition, ALL the utilities at the hospitals are SUBSIDIZED which, of course, helps keep rates low directly benefiting you.
I know for a fact that at least some (possibly most) of your utility bills have a line item subsidy included on the bill.
Suerte,
RH.
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12-31-13 14:38 #5105
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Venues: 398It's like shooting fish in a barrel
Originally Posted by QualityTime [View Original Post]
In addition, I'm having difficulty understanding your contention that the older drivers are subsidizing the younger drivers, given that older drivers generally pay less for car insurance than younger drivers.
Or is this typical liberal logic that falls apart after the 2nd question?
Thanks,
Jax.
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12-31-13 14:32 #5104
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Venues: 398Originally Posted by QualityTime [View Original Post]
Nevertheless, I'm still trying to understand your criticism. Are you suggesting that because (as you suppose) I rent rooms to personal acquaintances that I'm somehow not entitled to an opinion as to where my tax money is being spent?
Anyway, if you knew me personally you'd know how uninformed your comment is.
Thanks,
Jax.
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12-31-13 14:25 #5103
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Venues: 398Originally Posted by MiamiBob [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by MiamiBob [View Original Post]
Thanks,
Jax.
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12-31-13 14:03 #5102
Posts: 2556
Venues: 398Facts aren't important to liberals, only emotion is important.
Originally Posted by RockHarders [View Original Post]
1. The "citizens of the United States" were not "simply left for dead if they [could not] afford to pay for their own healthcare at "market rates" before ObamaCare, so what makes you think they'd be "simply left for dead" without ObamaCare?
I challenge you to provide a miniscule 3 cases of persons being "left for dead" in the 5 years preceding the ObamaCare roll-out.
2. My health care policy here in Argentina is with a private hospital and is most definitely not subsidized. In addition, no utility bill I receive here in Argentina includes any line-item subsidy, including my electric bill.
3. Without detailing my business activities here in Argentina, Rock knows fully well that his "contributing nothing" comment is completely erroneous. In addition, given that I pay Argentina import taxes, Argentine sales taxes, Argentine utility taxes, Argentine property taxes, and Argentine income taxes, one could hardly claim that I am "leeching" by living here.
Once again, facts aren't important to liberals, only emotion is important.
Thanks,
Jax
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12-31-13 06:24 #5101
Posts: 1064Jax that's all nice. No one will be able to afford any form of health insurance except the young.
With all respect, the essence of insurance is pooling risk for the greater good. I cut my premiums down to $12,000 with very good in. Network coverage and only catestrophic coverage out of net work. I truly believe that single payer is the only rationale long term solution. The ACA is a variation on sen robert doles' counter proposal to clinton's health care solutions.
Robert dole was a great senator who came up with a market solution.
Ted cruz is just not of the same stature. Yes, there needs to be fine tuning on the ACA. The lobbyists sliced and diced this one real bad.
The political will to have a function health care sysem does not exist in the congress.
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12-31-13 02:31 #5100
Posts: 41Originally Posted by Jackson [View Original Post]
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12-31-13 02:29 #5099
Posts: 41Originally Posted by RockHarders [View Original Post]
What does Jax do in BA other than own a house where he rents out rooms???
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12-31-13 01:45 #5098
Posts: 313False alternative
Originally Posted by QualityTime [View Original Post]
Don B.