Asuncion, Paraguay

[WorldTravel69]

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Since this thread is beginning to take on "some non-mongering substance" -an accomplishment for this group can we please, JUST THIS ONE TIME, continue with a dialog that expands this discussion to Uruguay, Southern Brazil, and the secondary areas of Argentina?

(I realize this is primarily only relevant for those that can travel long and deep without a fixed schedule. But there is truly a lack of info on this subject.

My sense of things so far suggests BA is a great place to visit, but tough place to live. Paraguay is the wild west - filled with beautiful women, of course. Uraguay is a paradise for ex pat living, but thin on mongering. And South Brazil is a little more expensive cluster fuck of fun, but you wake up with a hang over.

Gracias!

[Iamzonzon]

Since this thread is beginning to take on "some non-mongering substance" -an accomplishment for this group can we please, JUST THIS ONE TIME, continue with a dialog that expands this discussion to Uruguay, Southern Brazil, and the secondary areas of Argentina?

(I realize this is primarily only relevant for those that can travel long and deep without a fixed schedule. But there is truly a lack of info on this subject.)

My sense of things so far suggests BA is a great place to visit, but tough place to live. Paraguay is the wild west - filled with beautiful women, of course. Uraguay is a paradise for ex pat living, but thin on mongering. And South Brazil is a little more expensive cluster fuck of fun, but you wake up with a hang over.

Gracias!

[Rock Harders]

Mongers,

I will respond in general to several of the questions that have been posted here recently regarding Asuncion. First, the reason why there are so many young 18-20 year old girls working in the privados in Asuncion is because there is a great exodus of Paraguayans to Argentina that occurs after they finish secondary school and realize there is no hope for them in Paraguay. The girls work for a few years in Asuncion, get tired of the work, and head down to Buenos Aires the "mecca of economic opportunity" for Paraguayans.

The reason that there are so many good looking girls in Paraguay comes down to genetics and environmental influences. The guarani / european mix has produced some beautiful women and the fair weather, lack of smoking, and the absolute lack of socioeconomic opportunities for 99% of Paraguayan women has made it a requirement for the Paraguaya to be as beautiful as possible in order to compete for the very few economically-strong males.

In terms of bars and free drinks, the men at the bars and clubs in Paraguay always pay for all the drinks for the girls. The only males who frequent the bars and nightclubs are the rich because the rest of the male population could not possibly afford to go out at night and spend money on cover charges, drinks, etc. There are groups of girls from all but the very bottom socioeconomic levels at the bars and clubs in Asuncion. This is why at Coyote, Faces, Kilkenny, etc, there is always at least a 2/1 female / male ratio. These girls are at least as good looking as the girls that frequent the top-end nightclubs in Buenos Aires. Again, all these women go out as dolled up as possible in the hope of scoring one of the very few monied males in Asuncion. Most of these girls would kill to be taken out of Paraguay by a gringo.

In terms of livability, Asuncion just does not do it at all for me; this is because it is too small a city and there is essentially nothing to do other than fuck girls in privados. Also, there is not the 24 hour action that there is in Buenos Aires, Rio de Janeiro, or Sao Paulo. There are no worthwhile hooker clubs / bars, no beach, third world technology / infrastructure. However, the Paraguayans are really, really kind and nice people and there is a true plethora of available beautiful women.

For an older guy who speaks Spanish and just wants a quiet, relaxed place filled with kind people and beautiful women that he can fuck for a pittance, Asuncion could be paradise. However, if you are a young action junkie who likes a cosmopolitan, international and varied scene, Asuncion would disappoint you.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

[Guestrex]

The only thing I miss in Asuncion is a bar like El Alamo in Buenos Aires or the Black Swan in Lagoa da Conceicao (Florianopolis)

Sounds like we need to do something about this.

[El Alamo]

Iamzonzon.

I will say it again. 95% to 99% of people would prefer Buenos Aires to Asuncion.

As far as the maturity of the girls. We are talking about 18 and 19 year old girls. They have no maturity.

What happens to the girls after they reach 21 is a mystery to me. I just don't see them.

As far as business oportunities - you don't want to go there. I don't have details but I imagine it is like Brasil or Argentina which means to say - run, run just as fast as you can away from there.

There is this idea that Brasil in on the verge of becoming some type of economic power. After living in Florianopolis and becoming friends with some business people all I can say is bull fucking shit. Brasil has an intrusive, corrupt government, and an anti business atitude. Brasil has a large economy because Brasil has a large population.

However, I would bet the ranch that Brasil will never have a standard of living that even approaches the standard of living in smaller economies (such as Norway, Switzerland, Netherlands etc) which have more honest and transparent governments..

The countries that will always be be at the head of the economic pack are the countries that recognize that government, at all levels, is a cancer. And if you let this cancer grow the patient will die. Brasil has not figured that out.

[El Alamo]

Sidney,

Every country has smoking hot chicks. I think Paraguay has a higher ratio than most countries of hot chicks that are available.

Plus, Paraguay is not Brasil, Columbia, Cuba or the Dominican Republic. Paraguay is a mixture of Guarani Indian and European. I don't think I have seen a single black person in the month I have been here. As an example, a girl I know here is Carmen. Her father is German and her mother is Guarani. She is 18 years old and could be on the cover of any fashion magazine in the world.

However, I would say that 95% to 99% of people would prefer Buenos Aires over Asuncion.

Asuncion has no ex pat community that I have found. In the month that I have been here I don't remember meeting a single person from another country.

Having a working knowledge of Spanish is essential. I don't remember meeting a single person who spoke English outside of a couple of girls working for the airlines at the airport.

I have this great idea. We start a bar here where the girls drink for free. Fill the place up with smoking hot girls and charge the guys. Sounds like El Alamo in Buenos Aires.

However, in Asuncion all the trendy nightspots have free drinks for girls. That is why there are so many girls in places like Faces, Kilkenney's etc.

This concept that we thought was so original in Buenos Aires is common place in Asuncion.

There was a post on Jackson's International Sex Guide where a person was saying to his friends living in Asuncion - Wise up, don't tell anybody about Asuncion. You'll ruin a good thing. Keep this secret to ourselves. The last thing we need are a bunch of bozos coming to Asuncion and throwing money arround.

Although I understand where this person is coming from, that is never going to happen. Asuncion will never be either a tourist or a monger destination. I and a few other people have it all to ourselves.

[Iamzonzon]

"This known as sperm management - a concept that Exon invented and for which Exon was awarded a Nobel Price " I already thought highly of Exon. Now I think even moreso! LOL.

Sorry to try to put these posts under a microscope, but I am trying to get a better sense of the personality, maturity, and manner of the women both in BA and Paraguay. Can you elaborate?

Also, it would be great to append any info on gringo treatment and business opportunities.

Thanks again.

[El Alamo]

Sidney.

Sorry, didn't see your post right away.

To answer your questions. Some of Rock Harder's fly in girlfriends are from Asuncion. They are hot.

I know the privado scene in Buenos Aires pretty well and I enjoy it a lot. However, for some reason I prefer the privado scene in Asuncion.

The reason might be that the liklihood of finding an absolute knock out in Asuncion is higher. The Buenos Aires girls take good pictures (often thanks to hours of photoshop) but rarely do you end up face to face with a drop dead gorgeous girl.

Plus, the prices in Asuncion are so low, $12 dollars for 30 minutes, $20 to 25 dollars an hour, that if a really gorgeous girl is not available, you have a massage and go to the next privado. This is known as sperm management - a concept that Exon invented and for which Exon was awarded a Nobel Price.

By the way Exon, I just put Rocky on the plane. Rocky should arrive at your house in about 12 hours. I know you two will have a great time together.

[El Alamo]

Iamzonzon.

Thanks for your post.

The reason there is an abundance of 18 to 21 years olds in Paraguay, as far as I can tell, is because there are no legal restrictions against 18 to 21 year olds working in Paraguay. In Argentina the 18 to 21 range is a nebulous zone. You have probably noticed that every website in Buenos Aires claims their girl are at least 21 years old. As far as I know no websites in argentina claim their girls are 18,19 or 20 years old.

Why do some mongers prefer 18 and 19 year old girls? Because, when the girls reach the 21 year old age range they have a higher probability of having one or more children - not the end of the world but not a big plus.

Furthermore, no matter how hot a 21, 22 or 23 year old is, they have a hard time competing with really hot 18 and 19 year olds, especially if the 21, 22 or 23 year old had a child.

Basically, once a girl reaches her early 20's in Paraguay she has 2 choices, 1) retire or 2) go to Buenos Aires or Santa Cruz, Boliva. She has a hard time being competetive in Asuncion.

The girls from Paraguay that you rave about in Buenos Aires often are rejects in Asuncion. This is not always the case because some really hot girls from Paraguay are in Buenos Aires because they realize that the economics of working in Buenos Aires offer advantages.

As far as why I dislike traveling so much - I am retired and my days are filled with a bunch of nothing. Easy living. No hassles. Fix me another Margarita. I don't really care if the stock market crashes or Ben Ladin is captured.

I don't enjoy packing bags, taking taxis to the airport, checking in, going through customs, hanging around waiting for the plane, being stuck in an inhumane seat for several hours, going through customs again, having your baggage checked again, finding a taxi and relocating in a new living arrangement in another city. Repeat all that crap for the return trip. I have enjoyed that bullshit about as much as I can.

But I will say it one more time. Asuncion is not for everyone. If you prefer Cancun over Cozumel, Miami Beach over Old Puerta Plata, Shula's Steakhouse over a hole in the wall dive - Asuncion is probably not for you.

I am not in the least bit worried that Asuncion will ever become either a monger or a tourist destination. But for me it is HEAVON. Keep the Viagra and testosterone injections in the locked and ready position.

[Iamzonzon]

I am happy this thread refuses to die. And thanks to you, Alamo, and some others here at AP, I have become interested in Paraguay too. So a couple of obvious questions, from your last post:

1, how can there be a GLUT of 18 - 21 year olds (which is fucking great for me) but without a similar population 21 and up?

* for me personally, I am trying to raise my dating age range. I would also prefer non-pros, yet there is often a very thin line between the two I know.*

2, What does travel consist of that makes it such a difficulty - time; method; bureaucracy?

Gracias

[Exon123]

I have been living in Asuncion for over a month with a few side trips to Buenos Aires and Florianopolis. I am going to wait until the summer and see what Asuncion is like then. Also plan to spend a lot of time in Florianopolis this summer to see how Florianopolis is in the summer.

However, it may be that I will bring my dogs from Florianopolis and live full time in Asuncion. I hate traveling and dread every time I have to leave Asuncion to return to Buenos Aires or Florianopolis.

The available women in Asuncion are from another planet, provided you have nothing against gorgeous 18 to 21 year olds and provided you know the scene.

If you perfer more mature women I. E. Anything over 21 years old, Asuncion is probably not for you.

The only person I know who understands the scene in Asuncion is Rock Harders. But when you know the scene - Asuncion is a chocolate fudge sundae, covered with sprinkles, almonds and dulce the leche with a cherry on top.

The only thing I miss in Asuncion is a bar like El Alamo in Buenos Aires or the Black Swan in Lagoa da Conceicao (Florianopolis)

P. S. I don't know what restrictions the Paraguay visa has. In Brazil you can only be in the country 6 months a year without obtaining permanent residency (which has serious drawbacks) and in Argentina you need to check out of the country every 90 days unless you obtain residency (which again has serious drawbacks)

Everything is cool El Alamo, just please don't bring that dog back to Argentina, everyone feals safer that way.

Exon

[El Alamo]

I have been living in Asuncion for over a month with a few side trips to Buenos Aires and Florianopolis. I am going to wait until the summer and see what Asuncion is like then. Also plan to spend a lot of time in Florianopolis this summer to see how Florianopolis is in the summer.

However, it may be that I will bring my dogs from Florianopolis and live full time in Asuncion. I hate traveling and dread every time I have to leave Asuncion to return to Buenos Aires or Florianopolis.

The available women in Asuncion are from another planet, provided you have nothing against gorgeous 18 to 21 year olds and provided you know the scene.

If you perfer more mature women i.e. anything over 21 years old, Asuncion is probably not for you.

The only person I know who understands the scene in Asuncion is Rock Harders. But when you know the scene - Asuncion is a chocolate fudge sundae, covered with sprinkles, almonds and dulce the leche with a cherry on top.

The only thing I miss in Asuncion is a bar like El Alamo in Buenos Aires or the Black Swan in Lagoa da Conceicao (Florianopolis)

P.S. I don't know what restrictions the Paraguay visa has. In Brazil you can only be in the country 6 months a year without obtaining permanent residency (which has serious drawbacks) and in Argentina you need to check out of the country every 90 days unless you obtain residency (which again has serious drawbacks).

[Iamzonzon]

This post has become useful to me as it fairly and fully references other cities, not just BA. I am planning an extended trip and I do want to see more than just one city / country. I do LIKE beautiful women too. So, Asuncion is on my list now. (Big thanks for those vets that contributed and replied to PMs).

However, So, is Florannapolis. It has been mentioned to me several times. And frankly, I don't know shit about it yet. And, so is Uruguay. It is ranked high by expats, but seems to get a thumbs down by the monger community.

These seems as good as place as any to ask the same questions of these two locations as I have already asked of Asuncion.

* and please remember, as for me, I am only a very border line monger. I prefer my women be far less worn with a little grace, stature, and class. (And I readily admit that some of the best times I have had, sexually, have been with girls that took their enjoyment professionally.)

[El Queso]

A gringo will not have that level of additional danger, alone, without hookups, in Asuncion. It's not a dangerous place, although as stated danger can exist. It's a friendly place, particularly to gringos. Paraguayans like gringos for the most part, and don't often hate them at the other end of the spectrum.

Just keep your eyes open when you're walking around, because depending on where you are (near the river in some places, for example) you can end up in a not so good neighborhood pretty quickly. But most of the city is as safe as most large cities in the world, with moderate caution urged as always.

[Iamzonzon]

Happy, et all. I understand about the adventurous. About the danger, I get that too.

In Cali, for example, it is a place that become very safe to me. However, if a gringo went there without knowledge and a hook-up, rented a car at the airport, and went to explore Colombia. Pretty high probability that's a story destined to end badly - maybe very badly.

Can anyone approximate the comparison I am making?

In other words, although there are some bad areas in Miami, Atlanta, and New York, there is no question in my mind that Cali is 100s more dangerous to a gringo with no direction.