2009/10 Lgjg24 - Buenos Aires Update

[El Greco]

Isn't that name the same as the 1968 Jane Fonda movie "Barbarella"?

Or is one "L" the correct spelling?

Jackson

You are right. Correct spelling is with double "l"

[Member #4112]

Went by last night to check the spelling - Jackson had it right "Barbarella" was the correct spelling on the sign, just like the old Jane Fonda movie. Think I will ask the manager if that is the source of the name. Come to think of it I thought I did see a weathered beaten up old girl that looked like Jane in there!

[Jackson]

I was scratching my head how the hell did I miss that place "Barbara Elles" and know nothing about it although I am going to Rio since 1981.

Then I realized that you are talking about Barbarela. This place is on the decline for quite some time now.

Isn't that name the same as the 1968 Jane Fonda movie "Barbarella"?

Or is one "L" the correct spelling?

Jackson

[El Greco]

I do agree Rio is not what it was 5 years ago. Barbara Elles which was called the "Temple of the 10's" is a bit depressing this trip in regard to the number of girls.

Doppelganger

I was scratching my head how the hell did I miss that place "Barbara Elles" and know nothing about it although I am going to Rio since 1981.

Then I realized that you are talking about Barbarela. This place is on the decline for quite some time now.

[BadMan]

What's SEA?

South East Asia?

Regards,

BM

[Hunt99]

What's SEA?

[Member #4112]

I am in Rio now on business and can confirm firsthand the prices have increase. Due to the Real's strength against the Dollar, in addition to that wonderful South American tradition of if business is bad raise the price. All the termas (Termas 4X4, Termas 65, Luomo, Monte Carlo, Aeroporto, Rio Antigo, Termas Solarium) have raised their prices to some degree from when I was here in May. The termas rated #1 in Rio, Centaurs, has now gone up to R$425 entry fee for their basic 40 minutes. You can do the math at 1.7/1 exchange rate. The clubs are a little better with more volatility in pricing.

I do agree Rio is not what it was 5 years ago. Barbara Elles which was called the "Temple of the 10's" is a bit depressing this trip in regard to the number of girls. Usually at 12:30 AM the place is packed, this trip it was about half full and the vibe was missing. There are some 9's & 10's, mostly dancers, but they want R$600 and now they believe looking great is enough and the puta is plated with oro! Please don't misread this to mean there are no great deals to be had in the early morning hours with some really wonderful women but plan on paying at least R$300.

Help Disco still has the best prices but the quality is way down and you have to put up with the grinding Techo music they play. If you want a woman with a score below "0" they are in Help. The percentage of "fuglies" to attractive looking women is way up. Some good ones are still there but you have weed through a lot of chaff to find them.

All in all BA is a great place. The bang for buck is much greater in BA than Rio. I have found the women in both places to be stellar, just be careful with your selection. You will always find the occasional hard core, mechanical, cold hearted pro who will fool you on occasion in both cities. If BA had the robe termas concept they have here in Rio it would be perfect from my perspective. One other plus for BA is it is much safer than Rio.

Doppelganger

[Lysander]

I just came back from a week long trip to BA.

I have been to Rio 6x, Costa Rica 2x, DR, SEA, etc I was looking to check out a new place. I was deciding between Cuba, Panama, and BA. To be honest I was not a huge fan. For a destination that takes 16 hours total travel time from NY I would rather go to SEA. Also once you have been to Rio its really hard because the GFE and sex appeal of the girls there is amazing. Although Rio is not what it once was even 6 years ago its a lot harder to have a bad time there. The girls are passionate and they give you the fantasy. Let me state thati am not looking for as many girls as I can bang a day. I am more of a 1 girl / day kind of guy or sometimes if she is amazing try her again and usually have had some of my best experiences the 2nd time around. Some guys are not interested in this butim just giving you my point of view so you understand where I'm coming from.

Casas. Not really my cup of tea. Sort of reminds me of Tijuana. Dirty, nasty, etc. Its very mechanical, the girls are ok in some but overalli don't enjoy walking down busy, crazy streets ringing doorbells, and having sex in a nasty environment. Again some people love this shit but not me.

Esmeralda 517 1B was one casa that was ok, bit cleaner. They bring you to a room and about 15 girls were there each day. They come in 1 x 1 give you a kiss and say their name. Some were nasty, there was always a few cute ones. Isessioned there 3 x and each time it was just ok. Prices here are 150pesos 1/2 hour 200 hour 250 completa 1 hour.

I chose completa and each time the girl was complaining. It was just annoying. The 3 girls I chose were all pretty hot+ about 19. 2 were from Paraguay. But again nothing compared to a terma in rio where you can literally pound a girl through the wall and she will tell you to keep going.

The only other casa I thought was ok was Esmeralda 779/ PB4

Prices were the same as above. I went to about 10 casas in total. The other thing you have to watch out is some will try to give you a problem. After going to 1 on Esmeralda (I cannot remember the exact address) wanted to charge me 100 pesos after I said I didnt like anybody + wanted to leave. They locked the door and there were 3 girls harassing me for money. I am pretty big guy 6' 200 lbs etc but you never know what can happen in these smaller casas. Some have security guys in other rooms. I speak some spanish so I basically told them to fuck off, and after 5 minutes of arguing I left. Its just a buzz kill to have to deal with that. So for me this whole Casa thing was shit. Some guys like it because you can go to a place like Maipu 359 apt 74 and have completa for 120 pesos hour but again not my kind of experience.

Thanks for sharing your excellent assessment of P4p situation in BA. Would have to agree with you on most things. Haven't been to Rio yet, so can't comment on relative merits of Rio scene. Isn't Rio getting rather expensive now?

Maybe you're being a bit harsh on privados. You're right, there are some depressing and dirty places. Even in 'high end' places you can get that assembly line feeling, especially if you go at peak times. You can also have some some nasty surprises like the place where they tried to get you to pay for not picking a girl. Has happened to me twice in the past and I reported the incidents on this board. I didn't pay up, but its the kind of experience that could put you right off privados. Can you remember the address of the place on Esmeralda? Would be useful so we can put it on the black list. Luckily, I think my experience of privados has been better than yours. With the help of this board and some research on my own, I have had some very pleasant surprises and some memorable encounters.

Lysander

[Member #3320]

Great Report.

Thanks

[AllIWantIsLove]

GREAT report Lgjg24!

Thanks!

[Exon123]

Nice Report

Exon

[Lgjg24]

I just came back from a week long trip to BA.

I have been to Rio 6x, Costa Rica 2x, DR, SEA, etc I was looking to check out a new place. I was deciding between Cuba, Panama, and BA. To be honest I was not a huge fan. For a destination that takes 16 hours total travel time from NY I would rather go to SEA. Also once you have been to Rio its really hard because the GFE and sex appeal of the girls there is amazing. Although Rio is not what it once was even 6 years ago its a lot harder to have a bad time there. The girls are passionate and they give you the fantasy. Let me state thati am not looking for as many girls as I can bang a day. I am more of a 1 girl / day kind of guy or sometimes if she is amazing try her again and usually have had some of my best experiences the 2nd time around. Some guys are not interested in this butim just giving you my point of view so you understand where I'm coming from.

I am also not into hard core pros. I always look for the younger, less miles kind of girl.

Rented a nice Apartment from Paolo info@bairesrent. Com. Ar

He was very easy to reach and made the process super easy. A guy was waiting for me at the apt. 300 usd / week for studio I decided on the 1 bedroom and he gave me a deal for 375usd. Had great wireless Internet, kitchen, balcony, separate bedroom. 2 tv's with dvd cable etc. The location was perfect in recoleta.

Its a few blocks from Madaho's, good food, safe area. And its in the middle between Palermo Soho and downtown for the casas.

Casas. Not really my cup of tea. Sort of reminds me of Tijuana. Dirty, nasty, etc. Its very mechanical, the girls are ok in some but overalli don't enjoy walking down busy, crazy streets ringing doorbells, and having sex in a nasty environment. Again some people love this shit but not me.

Esmeralda 517 1B was one casa that was ok, bit cleaner. They bring you to a room and about 15 girls were there each day. They come in 1 x 1 give you a kiss and say their name. Some were nasty, there was always a few cute ones. Isessioned there 3 x and each time it was just ok. Prices here are 150pesos 1/2 hour 200 hour 250 completa 1 hour.

I chose completa and each time the girl was complaining. It was just annoying. The 3 girls I chose were all pretty hot+ about 19. 2 were from Paraguay. But again nothing compared to a terma in rio where you can literally pound a girl through the wall and she will tell you to keep going.

The only other casa I thought was ok was Esmeralda 779/ PB4

Prices were the same as above. I went to about 10 casas in total. The other thing you have to watch out is some will try to give you a problem. After going to 1 on Esmeralda (I cannot remember the exact address) wanted to charge me 100 pesos after I said I didnt like anybody + wanted to leave. They locked the door and there were 3 girls harassing me for money. I am pretty big guy 6' 200 lbs etc but you never know what can happen in these smaller casas. Some have security guys in other rooms. I speak some spanish so I basically told them to fuck off, and after 5 minutes of arguing I left. Its just a buzz kill to have to deal with that. So for me this whole Casa thing was shit. Some guys like it because you can go to a place like Maipu 359 apt 74 and have completa for 120 pesos hour but again not my kind of experience.

Everyone talks about Madahos so I had to check it out. It basically looks like a high end US strip club. Paid 90 pesos to enter and it includes a drink. You can walk around freely or sit down. About 30- 35 girls the night I went. Age was older I would say 25-35 years old with about 4 girls that were around 21. Most had fake boobs, very aggressive, hardcore. Some hot girls but you can tell from their behavior that it was all business. There was 1 girli liked but did not partake. They all ask 200USD. You can neg down to about 400 pesos (1 hour) if your good. Plus 120 pesos drink for them. If your the type of guy that just wants to say he banged a "playboy" type chick with a lot of experience then you will love it here. But the vibe is not very GFE to me.

My favorite were the clubs downtown in centro. Hook, Catto's and Ness (Near Suipacha and Paraguay streets) they open around 10pm. Smaller versions of Madahos but with a friendlier non aggressive vibe. Yes you will still find girls that are pushy but in each of these 3 clubs (which are on the same block next to each other) you will find someone interesting. They are not 10's but when I was there each club had 2 girls that were 19+20 cute, newer to the business etc. I had a good time here and spent the next 4 nights hanging out in these clubs.

The thing is like in any city once you sessioned with 1 girl at the place you become"known" The girls all talk etc so it can work to your advantage. They all hang around you, wanting you to pick them etc and they end up treating you better in my experience if you treat them well. I didnt feel a lot of pressure to buy them drinks. They were cool with me. Once you decide you want to buy a girl a drink its 60 pesos. Your drinks are 30 pesos no entrance fee. The girls will ask for anything+ everything. I paid 200 pesos for most 1 girl 300. And they all ended up staying all night but thats up to you + the girl. Usually its for 1-2 hours. There are some dancers that come in just to dance that are incredible. The owner said some were avail but not most.

I also went to Cocodrillo and Newport both nightclub atmospheres. Cocodrillo is mostly locals. They have girls dancing on bars and the rest is setup like a club. I felt totally safe even though you will def stand out. There were some hot girls there but you have to be aggressive with them and approach them. Some will come to you but not most. I didnt find anyone I liked at either place.

Cafe Orleans is a cafe downtown that is horrible. No girls the 3 x I went that I would even think about.

There are a lot of cool restaurants to eat at with great food, there are some casinos, cool sights, its a big city thats spread out and there is no beach. There is enough to do that you won't get bored but for me I would not return.

There are some amazing, beautiful women there, but it was challenging to find the "good times" I didnt get the passion as much as Brazil and I just felt that there are so many other places like Colombia, Panama, Cuba etc that would be much more convenient and just a better overall time. For me it was better than Costa Rica+ Dominican Republic but not better than Rio or SEA.