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09-22-10 15:40 #17
Posts: 86Originally Posted by Wild Walleye [View Original Post]
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09-22-10 14:54 #16
Posts: 1885Isn't the goal of cloud computing
Originally Posted by Miamipro [View Original Post]
Again, don't look at cloud solutions to be introduced in a vacuum. It is, after all, just part of the natural evolution of things (remember the "thin client". I recall Unix and MSFT (Citrix) being instrumental in those days (early 90's) and AAPL was not. An exec at Oracle is credited with coining the term.Last edited by Wild Walleye; 09-22-10 at 14:56. Reason: typos
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09-22-10 14:48 #15
Posts: 1885ABP. Always be proslytizing
I honestly don't care which OS I use so long as it facilitates rather than hinders my productivity. I am not now nor have I ever been vested in the MSFT vs. AAPL argument. I am just a hapless journeyman using subsequent versions of software that worked for me long ago and ever since. . In the immortal words of Freddie Bauer "When something works, you stick with it. "
However, I think you might be missing the picture. This is the real world not a vacuum where the “best” solution will take 100% market share.
Originally Posted by Miamipro [View Original Post]
Over the past decade, Apple's stock kept rising, and Microsoft's kept doing what it has gotten so good at of late. Kind of limping along.
But to dig a little deeper to help you understand why Apple is superior:
There is a good reason that Microsoft grew so rapidly, ConstableOdo: it cheated. Look into Microsoft's involvement in OS / 2 and how MS sold IBM down the river. Roughlydrafted. Com has a good explanation of how Microsoft got its dominance. OS / 2 was a more secure OS than Windows 3.1, but OS / 2 had to be sabotaged to give MS a monopoly.
The point is that Windows 3.1 would work on a DOS computer (which were the bulk of the PC's) while the classic Mac OS required more expensive hardware. Windows 3.1 on a DOS PC was a sorry substitute, but it only cost a third of a Mac.
All those advantages, which Microsoft had, have run their course.
With the ipod, itouch, iphone, ipad progression, AAPL has helped create its own new reality which again is focused on demand for software (delivered with industry-best usability, so I am told. It is just that in this new reality, you need a new piece of hardware to run the cool software. The truth is that Jobs is a smart man. What he knew was confirmed by the success of Palm. The deeper interpretation of which was that people (those with a modicum of technical capability) loved Palm because they could tweak it and develop applications for palm (I. E. Customize) while at the same time regular folks loved the usability. He exploited what he knew. Excellent job, Jobs.
Let the Apple haters be; Microsoft is doing an excellent job of sabotaging themselves. Windows Seven is more secure than Vista, but it isn't even close to a UNIX based OS. It is bloated, insecure and buggy. It can't be fixed without a complete rewrite or a hypervisor and there are very good reasons for Microsoft to dislike either.
Apple is busy expanding the computer market with the iPad, rather than fighting over Microsoft's turf. The OS wars are over: Apple won.
Many changes lie ahead when Apple converts to the 64 bit kernel and when the Mac gives up the last vestige of the Classic Mac OS: the Carbon API's.
It is no disadvantage that the losers haven't caught on yet. This partially true because Apple is not attacking Microsoft head on. Apple has more business than it can handle, so why should it begrudge Microsoft its niches?
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09-22-10 14:39 #14
Posts: 86Originally Posted by Sysco234 [View Original Post]
Funny you mention Cloud Computing. Apple is on the right path for this. They are not taking full advantage of this yet. But from what I hear they have something very big in the works regarding this form of computing.
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09-22-10 14:32 #13
Posts: 43Two different markets
I believe that Apple's value is based on it's consumer products and dominance in that market space. Apple lost the Corporate world a long long time ago. And, to be a little more specific, the OS wars are starting to be taken over by Unix. Not Apple. Apple converted their OS to be Unix based a few years back. Ironic that the protectionist OS company (Apple) finally adopted a platform that is popular due to it's open standards. Apple has won the Consumer products battle at this point. Microsoft's biggest competitor in the Corporate market is this new notion of Cloud Computing and the use of Virtual Computing and Virtual Desktops. An area that Apple is not a large player in at this point.
Originally Posted by Miamipro [View Original Post]
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09-22-10 02:44 #12
Posts: 86Oh here's a little more info for ya.
QUOTE: Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL) passed Microsoft's (Nasdaq: MSFT) value to become the new king of tech. That's right: Apple's market cap is now $240 billion, while Microsoft, yesterday's standard-bearer, is sitting at $235 billion. If you're not immediately shocked, you may want to look back at the start of this millennium. Back in 2000, Microsoft was worth around $500 billion and Apple was picking at the edges with $16 billion, even sinking as low as $4 billion at its post-dot-com-bubble lows.
Over the past decade, Apple's stock kept rising, and Microsoft's kept doing what it has gotten so good at of late. Kind of limping along.
But to dig a little deeper to help you understand why Apple is superior:
There is a good reason that Microsoft grew so rapidly, ConstableOdo: it cheated. Look into Microsoft's involvement in OS/2 and how MS sold IBM down the river. Roughlydrafted.com has a good explanation of how Microsoft got its dominance. OS/2 was a more secure OS than Windows 3.1, but OS/2 had to be sabotaged to give MS a monopoly.
The point is that Windows 3.1 would work on a DOS computer (which were the bulk of the PC's) while the classic Mac OS required more expensive hardware. Windows 3.1 on a DOS PC was a sorry substitute, but it only cost a third of a Mac.
All those advantages, which Microsoft had, have run their course. Let the Apple haters be; Microsoft is doing an excellent job of sabotaging themselves. Windows Seven is more secure than Vista, but it isn't even close to a UNIX based OS. It is bloated, insecure and buggy. It can't be fixed without a complete rewrite or a hypervisor and there are very good reasons for Microsoft to dislike either.
Apple is busy expanding the computer market with the iPad, rather than fighting over Microsoft's turf. The OS wars are over: Apple won.
Many changes lie ahead when Apple converts to the 64 bit kernel and when the Mac gives up the last vestige of the Classic Mac OS: the Carbon API's.
It is no disadvantage that the losers haven't caught on yet. This partially true because Apple is not attacking Microsoft head on. Apple has more business than it can handle, so why should it begrudge Microsoft its niches?
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09-22-10 02:32 #11
Posts: 86First thing i want to ask: Have you ever used a MAC? If so what was your personal experience with it??
Originally Posted by Wild Walleye [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Wild Walleye [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Wild Walleye [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Wild Walleye [View Original Post]
Thinkpad, Dell, Compaq, HP. All will get things done for you along with the MS OS, but when you want a quality product people in the know go to Apple. Why do you think all the Movie Studios, Recording Studios, Graphic Artist, Music Producers (Such as Myself) use them? Because the reliability factor and no nonsense approach just works. And yes they look pretty, but BFD
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09-22-10 01:14 #10
Posts: 90Thanks! Thanks! Thanks!
Hey Seaman, are you in town?
Send me a PM if you can spare some time to coach me on this. I have no confidence whatsoever in my command line skills. I am sure we can work out some compensation in kind for your efforts.
I appreciate your taking the time to describe the steps in the procedure.
Cheers.
Originally Posted by Seaman [View Original Post]
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09-22-10 00:47 #9
Posts: 1885So you say
Originally Posted by Miamipro [View Original Post]
(We RARELY get any viruses, if any) Thats why you always see Microsoft chasing Apple and trying to shadow their every move.
Either way, these are two excellent examples of American ingenuity and the byproducts of capitalism (the enemy of your deity. Therefore, free markets are to thank for you fancy little macbook. Although I always thought that a guy with a macbook is like a guy driving a Volkswagen cabriolet.
My crappy computers enable me to do the thing that I do. Actually, they record the things that come out of my brain, which add value to the corporations that retain me to help them make more dough. I am not proficient enough with computers to have them do my work for me. However, I can make them work for me. I can build a spread sheet in under 24 hrs for which corporations will pay me $40k. I can tell you today what the cash flow from a particular activity will be in 48 months form now and what that is worth today (including a sensitivity analysis to account for currency fluctuations) and I can find a chica ready to lock and load anywhere, anytime.
Windows 7 was an abortion.
Stick to what you know. Not to what you think you know.
If you want to play it even more safe, spend the extra money and go with SSD.
If you really wanted to pretend like you knew what you were doing, you would have your system connected utilizing ultra wide band connectivity with a unique energy pulse signal, combined with SOTA biometrics, to ensure security, maximum up-time and defeat interception and detection efforts. But I digress, you're the expert here let me know what I am doing wrong.
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09-21-10 20:12 #8
Posts: 86Originally Posted by Wild Walleye [View Original Post]
I never said I lost 2. I have 2 backup External HD that are tied into Time Machine for backing up my data. And to be more specific. I am more referring to OS's Windows Vs Apple. No Competition Amigo. Its been proven time and time again that the Apple OS is more rock solid than Windows. (We RARELY get any viruses, if any) Thats why you always see Microsoft chasing Apple and trying to shadow their every move. Windows 7 was an abortion. Stick to what you know. Not to what you think you know.
If you want to play it even more safe, spend the extra money and go with SSD.
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09-21-10 18:49 #7
Posts: 1885Highly superior, in your opinion
Originally Posted by Miamipro [View Original Post]
Of course before making this bold statement, I backed everything up to account for Murphy's Law and the fickle f-ing finger of fate.
I have had certain systems issues but none like my friends with Macs.
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09-21-10 18:30 #6
Posts: 86Hey WW
Originally Posted by Wild Walleye [View Original Post]
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09-21-10 18:23 #5
Posts: 86Mac
After seeing you already tried what I would have suggested. You need a new HD. Which speaking for experience. SUCKS. Trying to save data for that will prove to be costly. I have 2 which I have tied into time Machine to back up all my data. It seems like no matter what you do your never really safe.
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09-21-10 16:32 #4
Posts: 168In my humble opinion there is no need to go to cnet etc.
A simple run of fsck from the command line should normally do the trick.
(First check with dmesg what the device name is of your hard drive and then run fsck on that drive)
Basically the procedure is:
Open a terminal (Applications / Utilities folder)
Enter "sudo su. "
Enter your password of the account you have logged in with.
Plug in the drive.
Enter in the terminal "dmesg"
Normally in the last few lines of the output of "dmesg" you see something like "/dev / disk? " (Or maybe something with "usb" in the name. I do not have an USB disk available to test)
Enter in the terminal "mount"
Check if the disk which was mentioned in the output of dmesg is actually mounted. (Should not be the case since it does not recognize the drive's filesystem)
Enter in the box "fsck.p / dev / disk? " (disk? Is the disk name from the output of dmesg)
That is "fsck" space dash p space forward slash "dev" forward slash "disk? " (last bit without any spaces)
Every problem it finds it will ask for confirmation if it is allowed to repair it or not. Read all descriptions before saying "y".
If you would like to default to "yes", enter "fsck.p.y / dev / disk? "
That is "fsck" space dash p space dash y space forward slash "dev" forward slash "disk? " (last bit without any spaces)
Once it is finished, exit (close) the terminal, and reboot your computer with the drive still attached! (There are other ways but this is the easiest way)
Let me know the outcome.Last edited by Seaman; 09-21-10 at 16:39. Reason: Since the text correction script is fucking up the commands I had to add some things! OK, I give up, it is impossible!!!!!
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09-21-10 16:08 #3
Posts: 1885go to cnet
Originally Posted by Gauntlet77 [View Original Post]