Prostitution Ring Busted!

[TejanoLibre]

Your so right TL, I was just informing that the ads are still there and as for the clubs I don't go, and the ads Not.

I hang when I'm in ba in san martin villa mipu, with my deliquent cousins one of them is the leader of the bara brava de chacarita the soccer team, I get all the pussy I want there and all party favors too.

I try to avoid certain provinces as they are too depressing and extremely dangerous for someone that looks, speaks and acts like me!

I, we want to know :

What the fuck is the deal with the Hooligans or Baras Bravas?

WTF?

I went to a boxing match and a soccer game broke out!

These guys live for violence at, before, during and after a game!

If their team wins they burn cars and kill na few.

If their team loses they burn cars and kill a few more!

WTF!

Can you explain, as if we were 6 year olds, why these fucking animals do this shit and!

No offense intended for you!

I understand that it is a huge money thing for the people involved.

If I had a son I would NOT take him to a game!

I personally watched a 4 litre GLASS jug of wine sail from the nose bleed section down to the better seats!

Somebody died!

They don't even watch the fucking games!

Thanks,

TL

[TejanoLibre]

TL.

Trying to contact you. Called your numbers but not luck with either. What is the best way to reach you?

Jack.

Call me like you just did!

Both lines work just fine.

I do not use a Smart Phone that tells me when I have received an e-mail or when the Pope farts so I rarely check e-mails.

I do however check pm's on a fairly regular basis.

Best bet is to call me at any hour.

Well before 8pm if you want to have a decent conversation and around noon if you want to book a tour, etc, etc.

Take Care,

TL

[GreenWithEnvy]

TL -

Trying to contact you. Called your numbers but not luck with either. What is the best way to reach you?

Jack.

Fuck the ads and follow my lead!

Fuck the clubs and follow my lead!

You are looking for a condom in a stack of hay!

These girls are all fucking liars and case-hardened if they are advertising!

Find yourself a poor, dirt poor Paraguayan that needs to feed 15 fucking family members, that just turned 18 by a minute and you will have a very passionate, loving and maybe you will find a REAL human being that actually fucking likes your over-weight, over. Aged, ass!

The Argies are worthless!

Once you Go Paraguayan you NEVER go back!

TL

[Meforu 2000]

Your so right TL, I was just advising everyone that the ads are still there.

As for the clubs, I don't go, and the ads not.

I hang when I'm in BA in San Martin Villa Mipu with my deliquent cousins.

One of them is the leader of the Bara Brava de Chacarita the soccer team.

I get all the pussy I want there and all party favors too.

[TejanoLibre]

I was just looking a the clarin and under clasificdos," contactos " that is where the working girl ads are at there is a lot of them.

So the ads are still being published, under a different name. Good luck hunting and you'll get a better rate I think, numbers are being published

Fuck the ads and follow my lead!

Fuck the clubs and follow my lead!

You are looking for a condom in a stack of hay!

These girls are all fucking liars and case-hardened if they are advertising!

Find yourself a poor, dirt poor Paraguayan that needs to feed 15 fucking family members, that just turned 18 by a minute and you will have a very passionate, loving and maybe you will find a REAL human being that actually fucking likes your over-weight, over.aged, ass!

The Argies are worthless!

Once you Go Paraguayan you NEVER go back!

TL

[Meforu 2000]

I was just looking a the clarin and under clasificdos," contactos " that is where the working girl ads are at there is a lot of them.

So the ads are still being published, under a different name. Good luck hunting and you'll get a better rate I think, numbers are being published

[TejanoLibre]

TL, Prostitution hasn't been constantly legal since 1880's. There have been long periods of prohibition at various intervals since then. I have investigated the history of prostitution in Argentina and have published a number of articles in specialized publications.

The first ordinance related to prostitution was written on the 5th of January 1875 and not 1888 as you mention, but who really cares, those girls are long gone.

In 1934 all the brothels in the city of Buenos Aires were closed down and three years later. 1937, they were closed in the rest of the country applying law No 12. 331. The reason for this was public outcry which reached a peak in December 1930 leading to the abolition of prostitution on the 27th of March 1931. Of course, as things work in this country, it took till 1934 to enforce this prohibition.

The Ukrainian Jews you refer to weren't Ukrainian at all. The Zwi Migdal was a Polish Jewish organization that under the cover of a legitimate social / cultural association were dedicated to the traffic of mostly Eastern European women to Argentina for prostitution.

At the moment we are going through quite a similar situation. Kidnapping of young girls, drugs, the media full of stories about girls forced into prostitution and so on. These last couple of days, Carina Ramos, a prostitute from Black is all over the media denouncing having been forced into the job and the press is having the time of their lives. She reminds me a little of Raquel Liberman, the woman who finally denounced the Zwi Migdal putting an end to their exploitation. Carina looks as crazy as a bat but the point is the average Joe believes her.

Don't forget, the 'privados' came into existence in the mid or late 90's, first as 'saunas' and then openly as 'privados'.

Once again, my Penny Farthing

Thanks Aqualung!

You should be called Iron-Lung!

I pulled the year 1888 out of my ass because it was close enough and I have not read the entire book on the history of prostitution in Argentina but it sounds very interesting.

I hope that you are getting better!

TL

[Aqualung]

TL, Prostitution hasn't been constantly legal since 1880's. There have been long periods of prohibition at various intervals since then. I have investigated the history of prostitution in Argentina and have published a number of articles in specialized publications.

The first ordinance related to prostitution was written on the 5th of January 1875 and not 1888 as you mention, but who really cares, those girls are long gone.

In 1934 all the brothels in the city of Buenos Aires were closed down and three years later. 1937, they were closed in the rest of the country applying law No 12. 331. The reason for this was public outcry which reached a peak in December 1930 leading to the abolition of prostitution on the 27th of March 1931. Of course, as things work in this country, it took till 1934 to enforce this prohibition.

The Ukrainian Jews you refer to weren't Ukrainian at all. The Zwi Migdal was a Polish Jewish organization that under the cover of a legitimate social / cultural association were dedicated to the traffic of mostly Eastern European women to Argentina for prostitution.

At the moment we are going through quite a similar situation. Kidnapping of young girls, drugs, the media full of stories about girls forced into prostitution and so on. These last couple of days, Carina Ramos, a prostitute from Black is all over the media denouncing having been forced into the job and the press is having the time of their lives. She reminds me a little of Raquel Liberman, the woman who finally denounced the Zwi Migdal putting an end to their exploitation. Carina looks as crazy as a bat but the point is the average Joe believes her.

Don't forget, the 'privados' came into existence in the mid or late 90's, first as 'saunas' and then openly as 'privados'.

Once again, my Penny Farthing

[TejanoLibre]

As far as it goes in this country it doesn't make much difference if they are presidential decrees or laws passed by Congress.

There are a couple of things to consider here. First, the decree was just a petty way to get back at CK's arch enemy Clarin. Of course, the internet advertising was included so as not to be so obvious. Second, any law that can't be enforced is no law. Argentina doesn't count with many resources to investigate internet crimes but (and there is always a but) if they did even a minimum investigation just for public opinion a foreign culprit would be fantastic news. Remember the Peronists have always looked to blame foreigners as the ones to blame for all their fuckups.

As it may be, I am NOT the best to know it all; but I know how the system works, how it is paid for and how to works!

This country has had legal prostitutione since 1888.

Fucking Ukranian Jews bringing nice girls to work in B A!

READ YOUR HISTORY!

Lying about jobs that did not exisit!

White slavery for Ukranian women!

There where not enough women in BA

The History of Prostitution in B A.

READ IT!

Facinating!

TL

[Aqualung]

As I understand Kristina's decree (which was not an actual law passed by Congress) , it prohibits both print and internet escort advertising. Nevertheless, although the print media has stopped publishing "escort" ads, the escort websites have continued to operate.

Jackson

As far as it goes in this country it doesn't make much difference if they are presidential decrees or laws passed by Congress.

There are a couple of things to consider here. First, the decree was just a petty way to get back at CK's arch enemy Clarin. Of course, the internet advertising was included so as not to be so obvious. Second, any law that can't be enforced is no law. Argentina doesn't count with many resources to investigate internet crimes but (and there is always a but) if they did even a minimum investigation just for public opinion a foreign culprit would be fantastic news. Remember the Peronists have always looked to blame foreigners as the ones to blame for all their fuckups.

[TejanoLibre]

Hi Gandolf50,

That would defeat the idea of emulating the more popular Argentine websites in which their forum and their escort website are mutually cross-linked, I. E. The forum hosts the discussion and reviews of the chicas on the escort site.

Thanks,

Jackson

That's why " TL's Butt-Hutt " would work!

Unfortunately I am an Argie but we can place the servers in nuetral countries.

I have the time and I know the girls and the way in which to bring them on board.

Just need a bit of I. T. Help and we are in like Flint!

TL

[Jackson]

You could always open the site but not be linked to your other sites?

Hi Gandolf50,

That would defeat the idea of emulating the more popular Argentine websites in which their forum and their escort website are mutually cross-linked, i.e. the forum hosts the discussion and reviews of the chicas on the escort site.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Gandolf50]

As I understand Kristina's decree (which was not an actual law passed by Congress) , it prohibits both print and internet escort advertising. Nevertheless, although the print media has stopped publishing "escort" ads, the escort websites have continued to operate.

However, due to Kristina's decree, I temporarily shelved my plans to start an escort website associated with AP, largely because of my assumption that if the Argentina government wanted to make an example by going after an escort website, what better target could they find than one owned / operated by an American?

Am I being too cautious?

Thanks,

Jackson

One can never be too cautious while operating in a country on its way to being a dictatorship (once more!). You could always open the site but not be linked to your other sites?

[Jackson]

Probably more independents either working from their own apartments or offering their services on line. Don't forget the government put an end to the adds in newspapers some months back (rubro 69).

As I understand Kristina's decree (which was not an actual law passed by Congress), it prohibits both print and internet escort advertising. Nevertheless, although the print media has stopped publishing "escort" ads, the escort websites have continued to operate.

However, due to Kristina's decree, I temporarily shelved my plans to start an escort website associated with AP, largely because of my assumption that if the Argentina government wanted to make an example by going after an escort website, what better target could they find than one owned / operated by an American?

Am I being too cautious?

Thanks,

Jackson

[Aqualung]

Add to this the Marita Veron case which is in the courts at this moment. (See: http://www.glamour.com/magazine/2009...-simply-vanish) and the whiplash from a few similar cases (a prominent judge accused of being the owner of a few departments where privados were run. And other not so notorious examples-) there is writing on the wall and it reads "privados are on their way out".

Maybe not tomorrow or next week but nevertheless in a more or less short time. The pressure on them to prove that the girls aren't forced into prostitution will be enormous and also that no one except the prostitute herself is making any money on the transactions.

Of course, this will not mean an end to the business. Just an end to the way it's offered. Probably more independents either working from their own apartments or offering their services on line. Don't forget the government put an end to the adds in newspapers some months back (rubro 69).

More streetwalkers? Maybe. This depends on how strict enforcement will be as it's illegal for prostitutes to offer their services on the street. More bars like Orleans or the old Exedra? Also an option as long as the owners are willing to take the risk of having prostitutes sitting in their bars and not being accused of pimping.

Madahos has been under investigation for a few weeks now for the same reason. Drugs, forced labour, human trafficking and an arm's length of different accusations. The owners will probably shake off all the accusations this time but there will be a next time and then another. How many times will the owners fight risking ending up in jail with stiff sentences? Maybe it will make more sense to end up changing from their actual business to selling media lunas and cafe con leche to office workers for breakfast. After all, a business is about making money either selling pussy or selling pizzas.

This government has a shitload on their plate at the moment but the public outcry for security is second to the economics. Last night all the heads of the drug enforcement offices of the Buenos Aires police were relived of their duties and new officers put in their place. Of course this won't put an end to drug pushing or to police corruption but its aim is to show Honest Joe that they are doing something about it.

The same will happen with prostitution. At the moment the public outcry is too great for the officials to ignore. Not only the locals but a lot of pressure comes from the US. Read the article about Marita Veron. The US embassy is very interested in the outcome of the trial.

My Penny Farthing