A topic , which I wanted to discuss with other mongers

[Member #3320]

I'm not getting between any sides here. Just going to state what I hope is a pretty obvious fact.

Sure. Someone can go the roundabout way of "discovering" this board from their spouse, man friend, whatever. Or be shown it by the guy. But come on, let's use some common sense. Probably to Jackson's delight and actual planning, this board is VERY well picked up, indexed, and displayed on a HUGE amount of english Google queries having to do with just about anything in Buenos Aires.

You don't even have to be searching for sex. Our exchanging currency and many other how-to-live in buenos aires are popular and highly ranked Google organic results.

A woman doesn't need to be spying on her man to find this board. All she needs to do is not be computer illiterate, use Google on any number of normal, routine, topics, and find a prominent link to this board. She may even click it thinking it's a board like the expats one but of course find out it is not.

When you hear hooves, think horses. No reason to go to zebras.

A very intelligent reply. Thanks. When he stated "I don't believe that so many expat women watch this forum"., I told him some of the reasons, which were actually told to me by the women, who watch this forum. But I guess, you gave even a better answer to "how so many are aware of this forum". I guess in any google search on Buenos Aires, this forum would probably show up, if not on the first page. Thanks, Mpexy. Now I know why you are such a successful man! .

[Member #3320]

So essentially you are looking for a forum where you can postulate your views and then just routinely repudiate the resulting dissent. That isn't actually that interesting.

Ja ja! No, you are wrong.

I am on the forum to have a simulating conversation with like minded people. Even simulating arguments are interesting as it gets my adrenaline flowing. However, it becomes a bit boring for me when the other party becomes aggressive, or goes too personal or start to disparage the other party. At that point it becomes too fraught for me to concentrate further in the discussion.

You can never win an argument with a negative person. They only hear what suits them and listen only to respond .

[Rev BS]

While I live in BsAs currently, native californian and Los Angeles is also my home and has been for quite some while.

-Everyone's entitled to their opinion, so here's mine: there are virtually NO amateur housewives and daughters of korean american immigrants working in k-town or surrounding MPs. There may be a few here and there working as individual escorts, but on topic of asian / korean MPs, the reason the stereotype of the hard working korean american immigrant family exists is because the vast majority of these daughters and wives are working their ass off in school to climb to the next ladder of social status or working in their family owned business. My opinion is that you are confusing fresh off the boat tourist visa koreans brought solely for the purpose of working in these MPs. They can be illegal but a huge number are not. Short stay tourist or student visas are fairly easy to get for koreans and many come for a summer or short stay to earn cash in the MPs, far away from the stigma of home if discovered.

-Male koreans turned away. Must be a different LA we both live in. I have never heard of even the whisper of korean males, fresh off the boat, first gen korean americans, or americans of korean descent being turned away. The dollar is king, you have it, you get in. And again, most korean women working in these MPs are not from the states. Those other state korean immigrants are doing what the stereotype suggests. Working insanely 7 days a week if needed to build their family business into something that will allow their younger first gen children or siblings to achieve the american dream.

-There are definitely some illegal korean women being smuggled in. But unlike from many other asian countries, it is a lot easier to obtain family, student, or work visas. The majority of them are legals that got in via colorful pretense of studying abroad on student visa, work visa, or tourist visa.

What I wrote is just personal experiences and opinions, I don't claim to be AMP expert. The current scene is quite different than when it surfaced in the in the late 70s. I think I went to my first one around 77 or 78 on Magnolia in North Hollywood. Then the scene got more intense in conjunction with Korean immigration and the spread of Koreantown. The only action I had in Koreantown was a hairdresser salon that turned into a illegal AMP a block from Wilshire in a smaller street parallel to Western. In those days, women were mainly in the late 20s and up till 40s. Alot of fun, great service, good prices, no hardened pros or some of the women the GIs brought home that they had met in strip clubs. Rejected a few times, but was allowed in after verbal proof I was not Korean. So there you go. Perhaps, my exposure was earlier than yours? Most AMPs in LA are not in Koreantown except for the legit sauna spas.

I am not sure when law enforcement started to put on the heat, I believe it was in the late 90s. By then, I did notice that women started to get younger. There were really some outstanding girls in the Inglewood / Santa Monica AMPs. Prices went up, service started to suck, more jell, etc. I had then started to go to Mexico, then Asia, and eventually South America.

I would like to say that I really respected these women, they were doing what their Irish, Jewish, Italian, Vietnamese sisters had to do in the American saga. We all know the Korean economic story. Korean immigrants and their subsequent success in America added to the American mosiac. Anybody who never had Korean food, be sure to try to their beef dishes, even in BA. Many times, I had envision a Korean wife. In fact, it was suggested to me a few times by AMP girls, but I knew that I had to have some martial arts training for self preservation. One time, after entering an AMP and viewing the girls there, I rejected them all and did not make the right polite noises to give face, and was kicked in the ass as I turned and started to leave the premise. So I turned around, took the girl that kicked me, and we had a hell of a session.

[SunSeeker]

And why not expect gratitude? A woman is not supposed to be sleeping with 500 men. In Asian culture, especially, a woman is looked down up on, if its known she worked as a hooker or got raped or slept with a man other than her husband. From that point of view, should she not be grateful to the man who "accepts" her.

However, in the Latin concept, I guess no one cares how many cocks she has sucked. And she instead of feeling grateful to him, think on the contrary, that she is doing a favor by choosing him! Funny, right!

There is a reason it is called The Worlds Oldest Profession, prostitutes in some form or other have been around since the beginning of time. They were "looked down upon" by the same people that used their services, or their wives. LOL

[Mpexy]

If I would have shown them the board, I would not be posting here the way I am posting. If you don't believe or anyone does not believe, its up to the person. I have no money or sex to gain by stating this. In fact the first time when a caucasian chica told me this " the earth almost opened from beneath my feet and swallowed me!" I know at least 100 odd non pros ( Argies and Caucasian expats) in BA for social reasons, after being here for 4-5 yrs off and on. And to be honest, BA is a very small place, when it comes to just Capital Federal. This board is well known to most of the expat men who live here full time. They in turn show this board to the expat women. Sometimes, these men are in relationship with expat women and show this board to them for fun reasons. Sometimes, the woman is trying to pry on her man by investigating his computer and discovers this site by chance. Sometimes, one expat woman reveals it to 1-2 of her friends of this site. Some of the expat woman I know, perform strip tease shows for Asian men on the internet to supplement their income in BA, and are pretty much in grips with sex scene of BA, which includes knowing this board. Etc etc etc But anyway, you don't have to believe me.

I'm not getting between any sides here. Just going to state what I hope is a pretty obvious fact.

Sure. Someone can go the roundabout way of "discovering" this board from their spouse, man friend, whatever. Or be shown it by the guy. But come on, let's use some common sense. Probably to Jackson's delight and actual planning, this board is VERY well picked up, indexed, and displayed on a HUGE amount of english Google queries having to do with just about anything in Buenos Aires.

You don't even have to be searching for sex. Our exchanging currency and many other how-to-live in buenos aires are popular and highly ranked Google organic results.

A woman doesn't need to be spying on her man to find this board. All she needs to do is not be computer illiterate, use Google on any number of normal, routine, topics, and find a prominent link to this board. She may even click it thinking it's a board like the expats one but of course find out it is not.

When you hear hooves, think horses. No reason to go to zebras.

[Mpexy]

-As far as I know, the staff were amateur housewives and daughters of immigrants whose favorite choice to survive and prosper was to start a small business. And that meant they needed a fair amount of seed money. Even though many of them were successful and had good jobs in Korea, their lack of English meant that they had to start all over again in the US. And when you have a growing family, they had to achieve this in a hurry, thus, the sacrifice of female family members for the greater good. And when this was accomplished, the women went back to normal life.

-Maybe you did not know it, you would be turned away if they believe you was a male Korean, that was no-no. And as far as I know, the Korean women that worked in LA were from elsewhere in the States, LA Korean women would go elsewhere, they did not do it in their own hometown to safeguard their privacy.

-Later, when the amateur source started to dried up, they started to smuggle illegal Korean chicks in. They tend to be younger, and were supplemented by the young Korean girls who grew up in the US.

While I live in BsAs currently, native californian and Los Angeles is also my home and has been for quite some while.

-Everyone's entitled to their opinion, so here's mine: there are virtually NO amateur housewives and daughters of korean american immigrants working in k-town or surrounding MPs. There may be a few here and there working as individual escorts, but on topic of asian / korean MPs, the reason the stereotype of the hard working korean american immigrant family exists is because the vast majority of these daughters and wives are working their ass off in school to climb to the next ladder of social status or working in their family owned business. My opinion is that you are confusing fresh off the boat tourist visa koreans brought solely for the purpose of working in these MPs. They can be illegal but a huge number are not. Short stay tourist or student visas are fairly easy to get for koreans and many come for a summer or short stay to earn cash in the MPs, far away from the stigma of home if discovered.

-Male koreans turned away. Must be a different LA we both live in. I have never heard of even the whisper of korean males, fresh off the boat, first gen korean americans, or americans of korean descent being turned away. The dollar is king, you have it, you get in. And again, most korean women working in these MPs are not from the states. Those other state korean immigrants are doing what the stereotype suggests. Working insanely 7 days a week if needed to build their family business into something that will allow their younger first gen children or siblings to achieve the american dream.

-There are definitely some illegal korean women being smuggled in. But unlike from many other asian countries, it is a lot easier to obtain family, student, or work visas. The majority of them are legals that got in via colorful pretense of studying abroad on student visa, work visa, or tourist visa.

[Dickhead]

So essentially you are looking for a forum where you can postulate your views and then just routinely repudiate the resulting dissent. That isn't actually that interesting.

[Rev BS]

I can only talk about the Los Angeles area, although I have partake in various locations around the US. They started to take off in the early 80s when the Korean immigration started to really to flow. As far as I know, the staff were amateur housewives and daughters of immigrants whose favorite choice to survive and prosper was to start a small business. And that meant they needed a fair amount of seed money. Even though many of them were successful and had good jobs in Korea, their lack of English meant that they had to start all over again in the US. And when you have a growing family, they had to achieve this in a hurry, thus, the sacrifice of female family members for the greater good. And when this was accomplished, the women went back to normal life. Now I have no information as to the social & psychological consequences of this phenomenon. Koreans are very tight-lipped in regard to it. Maybe you did not know it, you would be turned away if they believe you was a male Korean, that was no-no. And as far as I know, the Korean women that worked in LA were from elsewhere in the States, LA Korean women would go elsewhere, they did not do it in their own hometown to safeguard their privacy. Both from a personal standpoint and if in case they got busted, their parents / kids / spouse would not be humiliated.

Later, when the amateur source started to dried up, they started to smuggle illegal Korean chicks in. They tend to be younger, and were supplemented by the young Korean girls who grew up in the US. Hence, New York and California were the best for this type of action, surprisingly, Atlanta was also very good. Many of them also had a mix of Vietnamese, Filipino, Thai and other Asians. Never did I ever encounter any Indians, Pakistanis, etc. With the fading of Koreans, we saw an increase of mainland Chinese, most of them illegal.

Asian massage spas are fighting for their lives these days. Most are poorly staffed, prices are very high, and service is a far cry from the days when mama-san ran a tight ship and you would get your money's worth. I am smiling as I write because of the wonderful memories and pleasure I had. Another rich chapter of the American sex saga.

[Member #3320]

you are being fairly routinely deceived.

Ha ha! Insane! Thats a preposterous suggestion!

[Dickhead]

I am not really doubting the integrity of your posts so much as I think you are being fairly routinely deceived.

[Member #3320]

OK, so now we see the discrepancy. You view expat women who give strip shows to Asian men as non-pros, whereas I think they are whoares. That is probably an immutable difference.

Their is no discrepancy. You started doubting the integrity of my posts. So I had to give you more details. The stripper kind is just 1-2 of them. Not the entire lot!

[Dickhead]

OK, so now we see the discrepancy. You view expat women who give strip shows to Asian men as non-pros, whereas I think they are whoares. That is probably an immutable difference.

[Member #3320]

Unless you have shown them the board, I flat out don't believe you.

If I would have shown them the board, I would not be posting here the way I am posting. If you don't believe or anyone does not believe, its up to the person. I have no money or sex to gain by stating this. In fact the first time when a caucasian chica told me this " the earth almost opened from beneath my feet and swallowed me!" I know at least 100 odd non pros ( Argies and Caucasian expats) in BA for social reasons, after being here for 4-5 yrs off and on. And to be honest, BA is a very small place, when it comes to just Capital Federal. This board is well known to most of the expat men who live here full time. They in turn show this board to the expat women. Sometimes, these men are in relationship with expat women and show this board to them for fun reasons. Sometimes, the woman is trying to pry on her man by investigating his computer and discovers this site by chance. Sometimes, one expat woman reveals it to 1-2 of her friends of this site. Some of the expat woman I know, perform strip tease shows for Asian men on the internet to supplement their income in BA, and are pretty much in grips with sex scene of BA, which includes knowing this board. Etc etc etc But anyway, you don't have to believe me.

[Dickhead]

I know at least 8-9 caucasian women from Europe or US, who read this board. I believe, they are well to do non-pro girls. Unless they have double lives!

Unless you have shown them the board, I flat out don't believe you.

[Member #3320]

few argentinian women are non pros.

I know at least 8-9 caucasian women from Europe or US, who read this board. I believe, they are well to do non-pro girls. Unless they have double lives!