2016 Elections in the USA

[Dickhead]

Obamacare means absolutely not one fucking thing to your existing insurance. You want to understand the law, read it. I did.

[WorldTravel69]

I Mentioned this before.

BBC's The Hour.

Golden Globe Awards.

http://www.bbcamerica.com/the-hour/

About the Six's, when News Broadcasters wanted and did tell the Truth.

Yes, at the same time as free love, sex and Rock and Roll.

Yes, before some of you were on earth.

Before like now, as FOX distorts the Truth.

[Member #2041]

Member #2041 agreed with Silver Star.

Not entirely. I did not agree that what he claimed was true about himself (and with which I agreed) could be generalized to the entire population at large

[Tiny12]

What Happened? Road Rage?

Member #2041 agreed with Silver Star.

[WorldTravel69]

Ohio redistricting plan is being is being worked on by the Secretary of their state, Jon Husted.

He did not get enough electoral Republicans votes in the election, So he is trying to get more in 2016.

[Rev BS]

It's Thanksgiving! Time to be calm and reflection on a world gone wild. Time to talk, not shout. Time to not take things like compassion and friendship for granted, and generiousity towards other human beings, dogs & cats. Time to be content with small blessings, like clean fresh air, cool breeze, sitting under the cool shade of trees, a good book & wine / sparkling water, crunchy baguettes, salami & olives. Then a nice head, neck & shoulder massage.

What else can a man need to be content?

[Toymann]

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[Tiny12]

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[Silver Star]

The problem is, your last phrase, about not hurting anyone else, is a fantasy that has no basis in reality. Society will foot the bill for you in the ER, Society will foot the bill for the children you left behind. Either by paying for them to get a good upbringing, or paying to incarcerate them if we don't. The simple fact is, you're free riding on society, and there is no avoiding that fact.

Society will benefit if I die too early, I won't get to collect any Social Security benefits I was forced to pay into my whole life, do I get credit for that? No Medicare either. Did you factor this in to your collectivist calculations? Get rid of all victimless "crimes" type laws like mandatory seat belts, helmets, etc and let us decide on our own, right or wrong. That's the problem with the collectivist state, it takes our choices away, and dumbs us down. The nanny state is so out of control it tells us what size sodas we can buy in NYC, what kind of liver we can enjoy in Chicago, and what kind of fat our french fries are cooked in, enough is enough.

Unfortunately, I think the theme of the 2016 Elections will be who is going to run the socialistic welfare state better, not how to make our current big and intrusive government smaller.

[Dickhead]

But the will of the people was to legalize weed, are you in one of those states? This is confusing.

How many people who committed genocide were freely elected? I am thinking none. But the smoking thing is very weird and reflects the polarization of our country, which is REALLY extreme where I live. Even I don't support a ban on smoking in parks and trails (bus stops yes) , although there should be a $10, 000, 000 fine for leaving butts. That is an important difference between cigarettes and marijuana. Nobody ever throws a roach on the ground. Of course, if it becomes cheap enough due to legalization, maybe people will start doing that. It isn't like it's a hard crop to grow or anything. Our law says "regulate like alcohol" so I wonder if we could be successful in limiting the tax rates to the same as the ones on alcohol. All this is moot if the banks won't deal with this. In my state, they got some scary letter from the feds so they closed all the dispensaries' bank accounts. Hello? If they did not want to launder money then, they sure will now. Also you can't buy weed with a credit card any more. I never did that anyway because my level of trust is not that high. It's important to note that our new state law does not include the right to smoke it in public, although it can be "displayed." So that makes it inherently harder to compare it to tobacco smoking.

Yesterday I was on the bus at the depot and there were a couple minutes left until departure time. Some guy walks up, sits down on the bench, and pulls out a cigarette. This is outside, of course. There was no one else around. The driver got off the bus and talked to him and pointed to way the fuck over yonder and the guy walked off with his head down. If it had been me I would have said,"What are you, a cop?" or possibly worse. Why? The law does not take effect until December 1 and you are just a fucking bus driver.

[Member #2041]

With Liberty comes Responsibility, so it is the Twinkie eaters problem, not the public problem. People should be allowed to make their own decisions, a long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, example, seat belt and helpmet laws (Let those who ride decide)

The problem is, your last phrase, about not hurting anyone else, is a fantasy that has no basis in reality. Society will foot the bill for you in the ER, Society will foot the bill for the children you left behind. Either by paying for them to get a good upbringing, or paying to incarcerate them if we don't. The simple fact is, you're free riding on society, and there is no avoiding that fact.

[Dickhead]

Obama care is going to be awesome. Here is where my planning ahead with my Roth IRA will really pay off. Those withdrawals aren't income so I will be paying like $135 a month for health insurance. Plus, I can use the retirement contribution credit made permanent by Bush to wipe out all my federal income tax. So I am getting handouts from both parties at the same time.

[Jackson]

Silver Star, I'm not sure whether those are rhetorical questions. But of course it's okay to kill Jews and make blacks use their own bathrooms, just as long as there's a mandate. The will of the majority always makes it right. If the majority decides that the following are illegal, as it has in certain places, then violators should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If the law calls for them to be buried in sand up to their necks and stoned until they die then so be it:

Having sex with prostititutes.

Homosexual sex.

Smoking marijuana.

Oral sex.

Adultery.

Going to school or driving a car if you're a woman.

Drinking alcohol.

Publishing or telling the truth if it's contrary to the best interests of the local elite.

And as you point out, although not necessarily sanctioned by law, but if approved and countenanced by the majority, then robbing and killing members of minority groups is perfectly acceptable too.

That's how we got Obamacare.

[Tiny12]

If elected representives say it is ok to commit genocide is is then ok too? (I. E. Nazi Germany)

Just because elected representives make stupid laws doesn't make it right. Elected Democrats in the South imposed forced segregation laws, and reflected the will of the majority, doesn't make it right.

Silver Star, I'm not sure whether those are rhetorical questions. But of course it's okay to kill Jews and make blacks use their own bathrooms, just as long as there's a mandate. The will of the majority always makes it right. If the majority decides that the following are illegal, as it has in certain places, then violators should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If the law calls for them to be buried in sand up to their necks and stoned until they die then so be it:

Having sex with prostititutes
Homosexual sex
Smoking marijuana
Oral sex
Adultery
Going to school or driving a car if you're a woman
Drinking alcohol
Publishing or telling the truth if it's contrary to the best interests of the local elite.

And as you point out, although not necessarily sanctioned by law, but if approved and countenanced by the majority, then robbing and killing members of minority groups is perfectly acceptable too.