Is the party over?

[Miami Bob]

If I come to Argentina, this board has zero to offer me, except to contact a few friends.

I also know not to waste time at the boliche gatita clubs.

I'll spend evenings with argentinos I know and monger off the net during the day.

Off to Medellin, next week.

[Miami Bob]

A great cross section of ladies us $140 to $300 per hour. Choice sweet spot is $160 to $200. There are all sorts of choices and different review sources. The odds are not with you if you are only choosing ladies from photos on back page--you need reliable sources of intel.

AP has a sister publication. In se florida there is a great board with both female--working girls and male--customers reviewing each other and. You will need to do some google work. I am not going to link admin USA competition.

AP sister website is:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/fo...php?42-Florida

I do NOT recommend the street walkers. Back page is generally horrible. Membership chooses what to review, not the ADMIN.

[Shawman]

What club is it that charges $700 for an hour? Was that a typo? The highest I can think of would be with a Hippo dancer where I would guess you would have to pay 3000 P plus another 1000 P for drinks and taxis so maybe $350 to $400 at a 11.50 to $1 exchange rate. I am very curious as to what countries you prefer? I think Thailand and Buenos Aires are good comparison price points right now as to taking out club dancers and the pricing for daytime sex. Thanks for your thoughts.

I only wish that were a typo. No, she actually had the fucking nerve to ask for $700 USD! I told her to fuck no. She tried to insist??? it was weird.

As far as countries I prefer, its not so much the country as it is the time in history. The world seems to jump exactly the same way in regard to our little hobby. I remember the late 90's in Europe. I was having sex so much my dick protested one day. I will never forget that LOL! Ahhh, those were the days. Solid 7's and 8's all day, no problem. Hell, even in my hometown here in the USA, the early 2000's were a dream. Again, solid 7's and 8's all day. The financial crash (-read- wealth transfer) and the hypervigilant statist policies that came thereafter played their part in destroying the quality once found in the world's oldest profession. The talent drain is undeniable. When you have 20 something year old kids coming home with 7 digits on their w2's, they are plucking anything 7 and up straight out of the discos before they even have a chance to worry about the rent.

The Thailand I saw was in 2012. It was the sad hollow exoskeleton of something long fossilized. Artifacts are all that remain. No comparison between Thailand and BA.

The USA has been equally dead since 2004, but if you never knew of it, you would never conclude that we too had a scene. No artifacts or remains. BA is still in the phase of the final days of the USA.

[Member #3320]

Miami Bob,

We will like to see you"r' ass here in BA in mid August. Don't be discouraged by the reports. We will find some good mongering for you here, when you arrive!

[Miami Bob]

Haven't been reading AP all that often the last year or two. Most of my old friends on AP are only past history. Daddy--we don't really know each other, but thanks!

I was planning on two weeks in Ba this August, but reading AP has me thinking of going elsewhere.

I like Medellin quite a bit--been there on three trips over the last year. It is only 3 hours from miami. I don't really know Medellin nor feel as much affection towards the paisas as some of my porteno friends. The women are just not as elegant and sophisticated as the portenas. The paisas are generally much nicer and more generally responsive to being appreciated and treated well.

I am quite accustomed to colombians in miami. The paisas --people from Medellin-- are a different breed. I mean that with warm feeling towards the paisas.

[Big Boss Man]

Fun and success, however, were another matter. To say he lived high on the hog would be an understatement. By his own estimate he spent $100 m on drugs, drink, women and high living in just one decade. He had 14 mistresses on his personal payroll. ("If it floats, flies or fucks," he once said, it was better to rent than to buy.) Felix Dennis.

http://www.economist.com/news/obitua...7-felix-dennis

I think this is where I am going wrong. I keep thinking girlfriends and I should be thinking mistresses. It is a better model. It actually lowers expectations. Expectations are what trip me up sometimes.

[Daddy Rulz]

If going to a high end club is your thing, not happening in a reasonably pleasant manner in BA, I agree. My posting was not intended as a put down of anyone's style.

High end clubs were never more than an occasional thing for me: too many sharks or robotic poor experiences.

BA has clearly changed and will continue changing. there is a long history of the "gatita" in ba. it will morph into something else

I was talking about apartments, and indy's, not clubs.

[Miami Bob]

If going to a high end club is your thing, not happening in a reasonably pleasant manner in BA, I agree. My posting was not intended as a put down of anyone's style.

High end clubs were never more than an occasional thing for me: too many sharks or robotic poor experiences.

BA has clearly changed and will continue changing. there is a long history of the "gatita" in ba. it will morph into something else

[Kevins]

Every time I do, they go walking in on my recommendation, then pay over the current rate. This is after I have told them specifically, generally two to three times, the charge is X. XX pay no more than that.

Then when I return I always, seriously every time, have to answer the question of "why aren't you giving me as much as your friend did?" If I don't know you, know you, it's not going to happen. The last guy that did that has at current count, cost me about 200 dollars. Gee, thanks buddy. I do at times publish links of the ones I know to be solid providers but don't bang anymore. Here is a 400 peso chick if you like unfinished tattoos and a little (a little) baby damage doesn't bother you. She's one of the naughtiest (as Stranger likes to say) chicks I've ever banged. No tits, nice ass, fucking loves getting smashed fucked and gives great and very, very enthusiastic head. Certainly not the prettiest chick in the world, but she fucks like a banshee. http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/V...1264_12484.htm

You on the other hand my friend have access to the library. Shoot me a PM and tell me what you like and I'll send you some links.

DR.

Especially us who live on PESOS (Me. Yes its true) really don't appreciate anyone inflating the going rate. And doing it on ones recommended by those who live here is no help to anyone least of all yourself. IN this case absolutely Daddy (Ruiz) knows better. ANd just to add my two sense in I know for a fact that a lot of my working girl friends did anything they could to get to brazil to work this month...DUH eurotourists wanting to fool around and so of course the ones who look good and make money could afford to go and did... end of world cup plus two or three weeks of since i am already in brazil let me hit a beach get a tan and sun and then back to ba and to work....the beautiful has not gone from ba...just went for some easy picking for a month a bus ride away... at least thats how i read this

[Daddy Rulz]

DADDY--tell the boys about the 400 to 600 pesos girls who are a good time!

Every time I do, they go walking in on my recommendation, then pay over the current rate. This is after I have told them specifically, generally two to three times, the charge is X. XX pay no more than that.

Then when I return I always, seriously every time, have to answer the question of "why aren't you giving me as much as your friend did?" If I don't know you, know you, it's not going to happen. The last guy that did that has at current count, cost me about 200 dollars. Gee, thanks buddy. I do at times publish links of the ones I know to be solid providers but don't bang anymore. Here is a 400 peso chick if you like unfinished tattoos and a little (a little) baby damage doesn't bother you. She's one of the naughtiest (as Stranger likes to say) chicks I've ever banged. No tits, nice ass, fucking loves getting smashed fucked and gives great and very, very enthusiastic head. Certainly not the prettiest chick in the world, but she fucks like a banshee. http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/V...1264_12484.htm

You on the other hand my friend have access to the library. Shoot me a PM and tell me what you like and I'll send you some links.

DR.

[Miami Bob]

The popo and politics have killed the club scene. Other than newport and an an occasional trip to the triangle club of the moment, I have been primarily using the internet and scening via AP or more recently the locale spanish forros. The semi pros are met through their friends on the net who are reviewed repeatedly on the forros. Pricing for baires girls ranges from 400 to 600 pesos and you have some idea what you getting if you read and think:

http://www.foroescortsar.com/foros/f19/

Some work out and some don't. More research= higher probability of hitting gold. Some are mercenary and some like to party. Regularls like the stranger and the locales can adopt. For guys coming once per year for a long weekend, lower probability of gold without game and conversational spanish of sorts.

Next possible internet upgrade with all sorts of reviews is solo which generally ranges from 600 to 1200 pesos per 1 hour.

http://www.foroescortsar.com/foros/f109/

Solo has a higher probability of hitting an englsih speaker, but you still to have some level of game to get to know the girl and get more than close to an hour without them checking the meter like a taxi driver.

http://www.foroescortsar.com/foros/f109/

I did this girl more than a few times alexis--about 40--very tight pussy gorgeous milfie type and more than enough english for a real conversation. She loves USA electric blues. Put on some alert king and treat her nice, if she is free she will hang and accept a dinner invite.

http://www.soloindependientes.com/es...oCategoria=604

Her last review is from may, 2014 600 pesos.

The club scene of a few years ago has changed and evolved--it is less inviting every 6 months that passes. With some basic spanish, the internet can work fairly well. If you generally act like a trick, you will always be treated like a trick.

The club scene has been pretty much dead for me for a few years. I also have been spending less time in BA because of all of the socio-economic changes.

DADDY--tell the boys about the 400 to 600 pesos girls who are a good time!

[Big Boss Man]

The girls from the provicia / Villa sure will take you for a ride and play you alone, often for a long time. But there is ALWAYS a local boyfriend in the background!

-Girls that will take advantage of you.

So I think the party in BA is over.

Stranger.

For the first time, I tried dating a chica exclusive over a 3 week period. The chica definitely was able to compartmentalize which probably meant someone in the background. She is a nice girl but I definitely bumped into some of the hard edges that seem to go with the lifestyle. For example, I caught her calculating the money she would make over the time I was there. I was already the proverbial "sure thing. " It turns out she was calculating because she wanted a new bed and a kitchen table and chairs. I would have probably just bought them for her if she asked. And the night I was leaving, she said that "It was only for the moment. " So she is definitely willing to string me along. My Dad used to have a cartoon posted on his garage wall that said, "A fool and his money are soon parted. " The picture was of a curvaceous chick and a guy with his tongue hanging out. So true so true.

[Big Boss Man]

Yeah, this has all the pathetic symptoms of a gone case. But moving forward, we can benefit from an autopsy. There are many factors to the situation we find ourselves in.

The chica drink system is one of them. I don't know where this system comes from, but it is arrogant as hell. The only other place I have seen this system is in Thailand, an equally dead country.

But at least in Thailand, the girls get somewhat naked in the strip clubs. Argentina is the only place in the world I have been where girls do not get naked in strip clubs. Instead, they ignore you. And if you manage a few words with a lady, the bar staff descend on you with maddening quickness and start begging for you to buy a drink (and they demand a personal drink and tip for themselves in the process). Did I mention these drinks are priced on average around $50 USD (aggregating all the clubs). The kirchner's kidz completely destroy any chemistry you might be trying to brew with the lady you're speaking with. But if you make the mistake of buying the lady a drink, you will then be met with an obscene demand for payment, to the degree of a ransom. Think $700 USD for an hour.

What club is it that charges $700 for an hour? Was that a typo? The highest I can think of would be with a Hippo dancer where I would guess you would have to pay 3000 P plus another 1000 P for drinks and taxis so maybe $350 to $400 at a 11.50 to $1 exchange rate. I am very curious as to what countries you prefer? I think Thailand and Buenos Aires are good comparison price points right now as to taking out club dancers and the pricing for daytime sex. Thanks for your thoughts.

[Shawman]

Yeah, this has all the pathetic symptoms of a gone case. But moving forward, we can benefit from an autopsy. There are many factors to the situation we find ourselves in.

The chica drink system is one of them. I don't know where this system comes from, but it is arrogant as hell. The only other place I have seen this system is in Thailand, an equally dead country.

But at least in Thailand, the girls get somewhat naked in the strip clubs. Argentina is the only place in the world I have been where girls do not get naked in strip clubs. Instead, they ignore you. And if you manage a few words with a lady, the bar staff descend on you with maddening quickness and start begging for you to buy a drink (and they demand a personal drink and tip for themselves in the process). Did I mention these drinks are priced on average around $50 USD (aggregating all the clubs). The kirchner's kidz completely destroy any chemistry you might be trying to brew with the lady you're speaking with. But if you make the mistake of buying the lady a drink, you will then be met with an obscene demand for payment, to the degree of a ransom. Think $700 USD for an hour. we cant kid ourselves about the fact that these chicas are kirchner's kidz as well, not just the staff. the two of them (the staff and the chicas) are gaming us like sport. they are the paddles, and we are the ball. So after door cover (usually $30 USD) and your drink (avg $20 USD), you have maybe one chica to take a chance on with a drink before you are already running into the ceiling of whether or not this bullshit is going to be worth it or not. Remember we haven't even gotten to her fee yet, and if she's a little asshole in disguise (which she invariably is), then you're shot for the evening. You're literally better off just jacking off. But you're still out a tidy sum for the privilege to learn the night had bollocks in the bag for you.

It almost smacks of a situation where men vastly outnumber women, and the women are literally paid more to stay than they would ever get consorting with you. The bars aren't as despicable as they are in Thailand, but they are pretty god damned close. They are dishonest to say the very least, they are cramped as fuck, and they are not functional bars in the slightest.

Like I said, this system comes from an abject embarrassment of riches on the part of the handful of girls that work there. Extreme wealth is not made during times of abundance, but instead, during times of abject shortage. This economic crisis didn't drain the world of money, it transferred nearly all of it into the hands of a very very few. The scene, I think, reflects that.

The government plays a role in all of this as well, as its impact on chica psychology is undeniable. These girls are the bastard kids of single subsidized moms. They are bred for war, not peace. When you have a stability of any kind, it actually plays AGAINST you for their affections because you are not appealing to the sensibility of someone bred for wartime. As a result, these girls think LESS of you if you are stable. They are bred to make babies by the time they are 15, in order to stay absolutely hooked on govt. , ie kirchner's kidz! The sons are ground up alive. They are destined to feed either one of 2 houses of kirchner, the prison industrial complex, or the military industrial complex. Boy or girl, either way, she feeds on meals of blood, and she eats WELL. This explains why these girls can't manage to keep schedules, or even manage basic business. Furthermore, because the govt will always care for their every need, they are not driven by practicality anymore, as much as they are by the novelty of feelings.

That's why drug dealers appeal more to their hypergamous instincts. Drugs are more of a novelty, and they instigate feelings, so they are the real currency now, not money (which they get for free, by way of kirchner's extortion of well, you). Also, since drugs are illegal, the people you need to know to get the stuff are pretty evil, so if you can obtain the good stuff safely, you shield her from those elements. This makes her love you, even if you don't otherwise bother to wash your hands after you wipe. Show me a situation that doesn't add up, and I'll show you a situation where drugs fill in the gaps of the equation, ya dig? This is also why these same women can't seem to leave supposedly abusive men. Its not the man who is irreplaceable, as much as it is the steady reliable quality of drugs she has access to through the relationship, that she won't have access to outside of it. (or least this is her real insecurity that she is unsure of if she leaves the dude.).

And the govt knows this too. It has designed and laid out the system to function as such. Please don't mistake this situation for a comedy of errors. All of these principles of psychology have been discovered and experimented with since roman times. Everything is going brilliantly and beautifully according to plan.

Boys, you might be playing the game too straight. If you're not playing crooked cards, the house will ALWAYS win. Maybe we have to start procuring drugs, or maybe we just have to take our dick and go home, but either way, the only this lady drink system is good for, is the lunch special.

[DavieW]

Can't disagree with anything there!

Although, if your Spanish is usable, it really wouldn't take you long to get up to speed in Portuguese. The grammar is virtually identical. Even the vocabulary is pretty similar, the only thing that would throw you is the pronunciation. I did it in reverse. I came here as a Portuguese speaker and it took me a couple of months to start feeling comfortable with Spanish.

And having just come back from a couple of weeks holiday in Brasil I'm still kicking myself for ever having switched to Argentina over 7 years ago!