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  1. #431
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    CNN lies and half truths

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveC  [View Original Post]
    Can you give us a few examples of these lies and half truths? I'm sure I can match each of them with 10 of the same from the serial liar Trump himself. Its just a matter of time that the list of Trump's crew either indicted or in gaol starts to include his inner circle.
    "CNN reporter Manu Raju falsely reported that Donald Trump, Jr. Had advanced access to the hacked WikiLeaks documents. CNN anchor Chris Cuomo falsely asserted that only the media could download the hacked emails of John Podesta—as if it was illegal for others to do the same. Why did Thomas Frank, Eric Lichtblau, and Lex Haris resign from CNN over their false reporting that Anthony Scaramucci was connected to a $10 billion Russian investment fund? Did not CNN erroneously and serially report that former FBI Director James Comey would contradict President Trump’s assertion that he was told by Comey that he was not under investigation? All this from a network whose panelists and hosts have variously held up a decapitated head of Donald Trump, claimed on air that he was a piece of sh*t, talked about a “dump” on a panelist desk not bothering a Trump supporter, mused about poisoning him, and invoked Nazi imagery to characterize him. CNN staffers were hot micced kidding about his plane crashing, while Donna Brazile repeatedly lied about giving a debate question in advance to Hillary Clinton. One network, and just a tiny sampling of fake news, bias, and obscenity / scatology.".

    Lies are expected from government employees and politicians, the media is supposed to report facts. The first time a government employee lied to me was in the summer of 1936 and it has been downhill since then.

    Don B.

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  3. #430

    Fake News

    Did you forget that Fox and friends started the Fake News.

    And Trump jumped on board.

    Now he is hiring one of the newcasters to be the U.S Ambassador to the U.N..

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/01/polit...dor/index.html

    Quote Originally Posted by JimBob  [View Original Post]
    I see your logic. You are ok with the yellow media lying, because (according to the yellow media) other people have also lied. This however does not change the fact that the media is biased and dishonest. At least we agree on that!

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  4. #429
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    Surely you are familiar with the photo of a Honduran woman who was supposedly shot at with tear gas while she happened to be innocently loitering near the border fence. "runs from tear gas with her twin daughters in front of the border wall " says the caption. Elsewhere in the article it says "woman looks back at the smoke from the tear gas theyre trying to escape" (obviously though the woman is looking off to the left and bottom of the photo, not at the tear gas that is more to the right and top of the photo).
    However if you look at the photo, the direction the woman was running, the way the wind is blowing, you can see she ran from the direction of the fence towards, and passing the tear gas on her way somewhere else. So this gas was not shot "at" her. The woman has shoes, and doesn't care that these children are barefoot, or wearing flip flops they obviously can't run in. This woman purposely put these children in a dangerous situation.
    However if you look at the articles about this incident, the media implies Trump was responsible for tear gas being "shot at" these children.
    If you look at the kid after the picture with the tear gas, when the kid had no whiffle ball, somehow the kid managed to pick up a plastic ball, and has its fingers stuck in the ball. It's crying because of the whiffle ball situation, either it can't get its fingers out, or wants the ball, or something, but not choking on tear gas.
    If you have ever been exposed to tear gas (I have, as part of military training, and the training anyone who shoots tear gas goes through) you are blinded, gagging and have trails of snot and saliva out your mouth after that, you aren't running or picking up whiffle balls.
    And aren't the kids a little old for diapers???
    This coverage of the migrants has been complete bs.
    The way they are always on trucks unless a camera is around, or the way they are basically all young men, until a camera comes around, when they drag out few kids, then place the kids in harms way in the hopes they can blame Trump for any injury to the children.
    Basically these people would throw their kids on top of barbwire and then run over the kids' backs to get in to the USA. The border patrol is doing its best to keep the border safe while not injuring children who the adult migrants are basically using as human shields.
    These are child abusers no two ways about it. This is the yellow media for you. Protecting child abusers in the hopes to be able to say something bad about Trump.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.95a1027781e6

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveC  [View Original Post]
    No, you misunderstood my point. I'm not OK with any media lying. I was trying to be informed about their lies that you say they tell. I haven't seen any in the press that I read, so please, give us a few examples. I'm sure you believe that they exist, I'm just asking for the evidence. Thanks in advance.

  5. #428
    Quote Originally Posted by JimBob  [View Original Post]
    I see your logic. You are ok with the yellow media lying, because (according to the yellow media) other people have also lied. This however does not change the fact that the media is biased and dishonest. At least we agree on that!

    .
    No, you misunderstood my point. I'm not OK with any media lying. I was trying to be informed about their lies that you say they tell. I haven't seen any in the press that I read, so please, give us a few examples. I'm sure you believe that they exist, I'm just asking for the evidence. Thanks in advance.

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    I see your logic. You are ok with the yellow media lying, because (according to the yellow media) other people have also lied. This however does not change the fact that the media is biased and dishonest. At least we agree on that!

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveC  [View Original Post]
    Can you give us a few examples of these lies and half truths? I'm sure I can match each of them with 10 of the same from the serial liar Trump himself. Its just a matter of time that the list of Trump's crew either indicted or in gaol starts to include his inner circle.
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  7. #426
    Quote Originally Posted by JimBob  [View Original Post]
    Actually, the people who hate Trump are the yellow media. Then they publish a bunch of lies, half-truths, and misrepresentations in order to cause the uninformed to also hate him.
    Can you give us a few examples of these lies and half truths? I'm sure I can match each of them with 10 of the same from the serial liar Trump himself. Its just a matter of time that the list of Trump's crew either indicted or in gaol starts to include his inner circle.

  8. #425

    Former club cattos

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  9. #424

    Point of information

    Quote Originally Posted by JimBob  [View Original Post]
    Wouldn't you prefer to have someone muzzle the SJW brigade before they shut down our hobby?
    We agree about SJW's they are to the left what neo nazi's are to the right but it wasn't SJW's who wrote, passed and signed Fosta/Sesta. I know, I've heard it from Jax, any president would have had to sign that bill.

    Yes, and any presidents administration didn't present that bill. You don't want to use less restricted commercial sex in your defense of the right.

    Back to the longest running, never to be resolved, non stop argument in the entire free world.

  10. #423
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    Actually, the people who hate Trump are the yellow media. Then they publish a bunch of lies, half-truths, and misrepresentations in order to cause the uninformed to also hate him. A majority of people who aren't poor, transgendered, gay, minority, immigrant women of color do like Trump. Those are all of the special interest groups who stand to loose handouts when America becomes great again.
    WT69, did you read this article? Don't you realize the SJW brigade attacks Trump in order to get publicity? They don't bring effigies of Putin or the sultan of Saudi Arabia. Those leaders poison people with uranium and cut people up in to pieces and dissolve them in acid. None of this matters to the new left, because no one cares if Russians and Arabs dissolve each other in acid or melt each other with plutonium.
    WT69, I will tell you what your beloved SJW brigade really dislikes, and that is coming to the third world to pay women for sex.
    Wouldn't you prefer to have someone muzzle the SJW brigade before they shut down our hobby?
    Let's keep our eye on the ball of the things that really matter. Let the transgendered and immigrants and what have you fend for themselves, who cares what happens to them? Let's care about what happens to us
    Quote Originally Posted by WorldTravel69  [View Original Post]
    I get right to the point.

    Why beat around the bush?

    The whole World hates him, except the tyrants.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...30-p50je7.html
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  11. #422
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    Difference

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldTravel69  [View Original Post]
    I get right to the point.

    Why beat around the bush?

    The whole World hates him, except the tyrants.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...30-p50je7.html
    What does any of this have to do with the question I asked?

    Don't bother to respond, I'm not going to debate someone who doesn't know the difference between your and you're.

    Don B.

  12. #421

    Yes you're right

    I get right to the point.

    Why beat around the bush?

    The whole World hates him, except the tyrants.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...30-p50je7.html

    Quote Originally Posted by DonB  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for your articulate and intelligent response. It was right to the point.

    Don B.
    Last edited by WorldTravel69; 12-02-18 at 12:37. Reason: grammar correction, sorry Don

  13. #420

    G20

    Here is what the World thinks of Trump.

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...204314851.html

    Quote Originally Posted by BayBoy  [View Original Post]
    The G20 summit is going on in Buenos Aires right now. These are the most powerful countries in the world, including the USA, Russia and China. It will be interesting to see how Trump relates to Putin and the Chinese, considering the trade and tariff war he's created with them. And his connection with the Russians.

  14. #419
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    As usual

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldTravel69  [View Original Post]
    I am an American.

    I do not support Russian Spies!

    Trump is a lying sack of shit.

    I did not like Hillary either, but at least she supports the U.S.A.
    Thank you for your articulate and intelligent response. It was right to the point.

    Don B.

  15. #418

    Buenos Aires

    The G20 summit is going on in Buenos Aires right now. These are the most powerful countries in the world, including the USA, Russia and China. It will be interesting to see how Trump relates to Putin and the Chinese, considering the trade and tariff war he's created with them. And his connection with the Russians.

  16. 11-29-18 22:33

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    American

    I am an American.

    I do not support Russian Spies!

    Trump is a lying sack of shit.

    I did not like Hillary either, but at least she supports the U.S.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonB  [View Original Post]
    If it was OK for the wicked witch, why is it not OK for everybody?

    This time your answer, not just a link.

    Don B.

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