2012 Elections in the USA

[David_33]

Once again your post proves my point. But what can one expect from someone who needs to use toys?

[Toymann]

"Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong." Rousseau, Jean Jacques

We are allowed to be colourful here [Deleted by Admin]! Read the political threads and stop sounding like a [Deleted by Admin] everytime I post. Esten and I are friends [Deleted by Admin] and colourful exchanges have dominated this and the other political thread for years. As most liberals on this board you do not address the facts of my post. So I guesse you are now an expert on the Balkins. LMAO. Suggest you stay off these threads unless you want to discuss the issues and not whine about the form of my posts here. Trust me, Esten wasn't offended. Now go out and save some whales or continue your lecture series on internet chat board etiquette.

Happy Mongering All,

Toymann

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[David_33]

Your facts are totally misdirection BULLSHIT! Shame on you spin Boy! WTF. I thought you were actually much smarter than this! Guesse you just have to use any distorted metric to support your boy.

"Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong." Rousseau, Jean Jacques

[Toymann]

Oil and Gas Jobs Increase by 75, 000 Under Obama — 69, 000 More Than Would Be Created By Keystone XL.

http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2012/0...y-keystone-xl/

All these jobs are a result of north Dakota Balkan formation oil development. This had nothing to do with Obama, but guesse who? The devil George W! It takes time to ramp up oil development. Your facts are totally misdirection BULLSHIT! Shame on you spin Boy! I live in this part of the world and no one out here would ever attribute this sole example of energy growth to Obamanation. WTF. I thought you were actually much smarter than this! Guesse you just have to use any distorted metric to support your boy. Obomanations record is "what it is"! Deal with it! Happy Mongering All. Toymann

[Esten]

Newt is suggesting he could get gas down to $2 / gallon as president.

One of his arguments is that we actually had $2 gas not too long ago. That the national average was below $2 when Obama was inaugurated. Republicans also use this to show how much gas has increased under Obama. Of course, they all fail to point out that these events occured near the bottom of a market crash.

They're also claiming Obama's policies have caused the rise in gas prices, especially Keystone, but no oil projects he might have approved would have brought any oil to market at this point. The other angle is that Obama has been weak with Iran, and this is causing oil to go up.

As usual, these jokers are grasping at anything they can to advance themselves politically. It is comical, and a shame.

Here's an article with some stats you will never hear these guys mention. One of the most noteworthy IMO - more drilling rigs are being deployed in America today than at any time since the mid 1980's.

Oil and Gas Jobs Increase by 75,000 Under Obama — 69,000 More Than Would Be Created By Keystone XL
http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2012/0...y-keystone-xl/

[Miami Bob]

Newt is a pig, but at least he has soul and isn't boring. Mitt just loves the height of the trees in michigan and lakes, lots of lakes. He drove a mustang-wowwie zowwie a mustang-

Sarah pallin on the 40th ballet, is the only one left standing. She gets herman's and rick perry's left over delegates delegates and mr rick's by promising to campaign on her daughters being taught to never use condoms during their home schooling. Public schools teach the youth of america about ungodly things like condoms.

While this goes on and the world stratches it's head-Obama will open up an annex of the the governmet printing office to set-up exrtra printing presses in the White house to keep-up with the demand for more $$. He moves michelle and the girls and 47 secret service guys into trailer park and he pays less taxes than warren buffet's secretary.

Only in the USA

[Member #4112]

Dick Head makes some good points but I believe the election will be too close to call until late on election night baring some unforeseen major event, be it good or bad for either side.

If you look back at other elections, the incumbent always sees a rise in his popularity as the other party's presidential candidates attack each other. All the incumbent has to do is remain in the back ground and at least give the impression of being presidential, so Esten I would not start counting the election won at this point.

I do think the election will turn into a dog fight late this summer and Obama's current above 50% approval rating will plummet as the election nears.

Where is why :

1. Gas prices continue to rise and will be at or above $4 / gal before the election, you will see plenty of ads quoting Obama's US Secretary of Energy Steven Chu 'somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe' as they continue to force the American public 'Green' by choking off domestic production via regulation and red tape. XL Pipeline anyone?

2. The Catholic Church contraceptive issue is not going to go away, as one case filed on behalf of a Catholic institution has already been granted a temporary injunction prohibiting the Fed from implementing it. This will be a wedge issue which will cost Obama badly needed votes come November.

3. Obama's continued treatment of Israel as the 'red headed step child' is already costing Obama votes in the Jewish community and the administration's further demands for Israel to refrain from defending itself will only accelerate the loss of the Jewish vote.

4. Obama will suffer a reversal of fortune in the Supreme Court at the end of June or first of July as the individual mandate is found unconstitutional.

5. The companion case to this regarding severability will most probably come out against Obama as well since trying to insert a 'severability clause' into the legislation after it was written, enacted and signed into law is futile and will result in the entire law collapsing.

6. Unemployment will come back to haunt Obama as the masses lose their Unemployment Benefits they are now turning to Disability which is paid by the Social Security Trust Fund.

A. When granted disability they are removed from the 'unemployment rolls' but added to the already overburdened social security disability rolls, FYI the Social Security Trust Fund is scheduled to go bankrupt in 2018.

B. By the way 5. 3% of all Americans now receive disability payments from the Social Security Trust Fund. The number approved for disability has increased 18% since 2008 and continues to accelerate.

C. This manipulation of unemployment numbers and disability numbers will be another negative for Obama

7. Once the GOP primary battles are over, the GOP candidate will turn all that attention on Obama and his record.

Have a good day

[El Alamo]

I think Dickhead's predictions are pretty sound.

I am not sure the economy is going to save Obama. I expect the economy to be more or less a mess come November I. E. Housing markets a disaster, inflation starting to raise its ugly head, national debt increasing at warp speed, real unemployment unacceptable. I don't think Obama can make a dent in these problems because Obama's understanding of a free market economy could be written on the back of a postage stamp with a lot a space left over.

The real issue is that the Republicans might nominate a knucklehead. Much like their senatorial candidates in nevada and Delaware in 2010.

[Esten]

You guys debating would be like ron paul and huntsman-everyone would fall asleep. You guys are missing the drama and idiocy of Rick perry, herman cain and super newt.

I couldn't miss it if I tried! The GOP race is on the news every day, every hour it seems. Occasionally I get tired of the news so dominated with it, but sooner or later I find myself wanting to check in on the latest. It's turning out to be good for the Obama team, I'm sure they're happy to have it go on as long as possible. I am looking forward to seeing what quotes and clips end up in the fall campaign.

I generally don't post about the GOP race, I prefer discussing and exposing the pervasive bullshit in right wing policies and positions. But they are certainly connected.

My favorite guy so far is Rick Perry. Too bad he dropped out. All Obama would have had to do is run his 'Oops' debate performance as a commerical over and over.

"I will tell you: It's three agencies of government, when I get there, that are gone: Commerce, Education and the -- what's the third one there? Let's see. . OK. So Commerce, Education and the -- . The third agency of government I would -- I would do away with the Education, the . Commerce and -- let's see -- I can't. The third one, I can't. Sorry. Oops."

My gawd, what an epic embarrassment for Perry, and for the state of Texas. And he's had several other embarrassing quotes too. But forgetting the three agencies he wants to cut? What that tells me, is this could not possibly have been a policy position he's thought through and held for a long time. You wouldn't forget something like that. No, Perry and his handlers probably whipped this up prior to the debate, to help separate himself from the pack, to help portray him as a leader with great, bold policies. But then he forgot, live on national television. The guy comes across as the consumate snake-oil salesman. Maybe he can sweet-talk his believers in the conservative state of Texas, but his bullshit wouldn't have stood a chance against a reasoned thinker like Obama. Too bad, I would have loved to watch Obama. Perry debates.

Now Perry's latest, he jumped on Newt's bandwagon as it was surging ahead. Now Newt slid back to third.

There will be plenty of time to talk about Romney and Santorum. I don't care who their nominee is. They will lose. Not because of their candidate but because of their policies and positions. The single biggest one being their position on taxes. The GOP nominee will not be the most important person determining Obama's win. The most important person helping Obama win will be Grover Norquist.

[Miami Bob]

How about some posting about chicas or a good restaurant or bar. You are the master of cost-effective mongering in BA. Newbies-this is the guy to listen to HE KNOWS HIS STUFF.

[Rev BS]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...babeu-20120219

0, 182908. Story.

A Republican freak of nature or an Democratic agent sent to cause disarray among the Republicans. The world is coming to an end.

Well, the news story is of the Arizona sheriff who is running for Congress, Paul Babeu, a rising Republican star. He disclosed his gay identity after exposure that he is featured in a gay soliciting web site. In addition, it was reported that he threatened his former lover, with deportation if he disclosed their relationship.

[Punter 127]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...babeu-20120219

0, 182908. Story.

A Republican freak of nature or an Democratic agent sent to cause disarray among the Republicans. The world is coming to an end.

Your link is bad.

[Dickhead]

Romney will be the Republican nominee and Obama will beat him because the economy is recovering just fast enough for that to happen. Obamacare will thus survive because even if the Democrats don't get a majority in Congress the Republicans won't be able to override a veto. Some states will refuse to implement the "insurance exchange" system and so that will mean more Medicaid enrollees. The Bush tax cuts will not survive in their entirety but the 10% bracket will survive. Capital gains will not be taxed the same as ordinary income but the preference will decrease. My bet is the 0% will go to 10% and the 15% will go to 20%. Dividends might go higher since people are too stupid to realize that one is a substitute for the other.

I am not political. I am practical. You set up whatever system and I will do my best to beat it. But these are my predictions so let's see how it all shakes out. I will vote for Obama not because he is the Messiah but because I selfishly believe I will be better off under him than under either Sanctimonio or Rich Fuck Mormon. Ideology means nothing to me and my net cash flow means everything to me.

Now let's return to our regularly scheduled righty lefty bullshit.

[Rev BS]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...babeu-20120219.0, 182908. Story.

A Republican freak of nature or an Democratic agent sent to cause disarray among the Republicans. The world is coming to an end.

[Miami Bob]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tion-1452.html

Is the USA ready for no contraceptives and sexual self control as a national policy? I guess covered BJ's may become illegal. Bootleggers will be running in illegal condoms from canada and mexico. Viagra will only be available to married men. Mr rick has the point of view of a good christian man from before martin luther's time. Each religion or even those without religion are entitled to their own point of view as long as it does impact those with other points of view.