San Martin 955 Dept 1-C (at Marcelo T. Alvear)

[Argento]

If everything about Argentina was as bad as your relentlessly negative posts suggest, why do people like me like it there, and why do we keep on coming back. Are we all stupid, masochistic, or just plain naive? Just because you live there does not make you the sole arbiter of the absolute truth about the country. Come on Argento, surprise us one day. You must have the occasional positive experience you'd like to share with us.

Have a good day.

Lysander

You obviously read selectively. For me not being scammed during the day is a positive experience. But this is your party. Tell us, on the QT if you want, the superior aspects of Buenos Aires. You have no need to note the chica situation; we take that as a given. But truly; What else?

For me there is the weather. I think it is great. I don't mix with the tango set, so I have no opinion on them. The fresh-filled pasta is as good as the best in the world, but hardly a sensible reason to relocate. Since the Chinese invasion of the supermarket scene, the developement of a Chinatown in Belgrano has meant for the first time, a supply of fantastic seafood. And as that is my animal protein of choice, my life has immeasurably improved. Cost of living is a rollercoaster but it is still very cheap in comparison to other cities.

But all of the above is hardly cause to live here or to consider what is available to be exceptional in comparison to other cities in other countries. The great attraction to me has been the immense profits available to me from the goods that I export. Without the supply of those goods and the profits earned, I certainly would prefer to live elsewhere.

Does that help?

Argento

[Lysander]

So Lysander, if my posts offend you, don't read them. If you find fault with them, point it out and give some objective criticism. I am a big boy and I won't cry. You may recall from your youth in Australia, the saying, "Play the ball, not the man." If my facts are wrong, "Have a go ya mug".

Argento

Don't worry Argento. I am not easily offended. In fact I'll be only too happy to share a few beers and exchange a few insults in person when I come down here later this month. Where I went to school we played Aussi rules football where its more a case of tackle the man and worry about the ball later.

Obviously my perspective on Argentina is very different to yours. In the past five years I've been to Argentina six times and must have spent almost two years there in total. I now have a working grasp of Argentinian Spanish and have made some good friends there. Some of my closest friends in Europe are also from Argentina. I'll be there again for two months in a couple of weeks time. However, I don't live there and don't claim to be an expert on all things Argentinian. Gracias a Dios, I am not trying to run a small business there. My hat goes off to any foreigner who tries to do so. Sadly, the many difficulties you experience in running your business seem to have soured your view of every aspect of Argentinian life and all Argentinians. The thing is that most readers of this forum are not trying to run a business. They go to Argentina to have a good time for a few days or weeks. All the evidence suggests that most of them have a generally very positive experience. Sure, they may notice the garbage in the streets, the broken pavements, the noisy buses, the crowded subtes, the uncontrolled building of high rise apartment blocks and other irritating aspects of daily life, but these are vastly outweighed by the other positive things - the night life, the restaurants, the cheap taxis, the scenery, and the generally friendly and helpful people. Most tourists don't have to deal with the corruption and bureaucracy, but then again most don't know about the great chica scene in BA either.

If everything about Argentina was as bad as your relentlessly negative posts suggest, why do people like me like it there, and why do we keep on coming back. Are we all stupid, masochistic, or just plain naive? Just because you live there does not make you the sole arbiter of the absolute truth about the country. Come on Argento, surprise us one day. You must have the occasional positive experience you'd like to share with us.

Have a good day.

Lysander

[Member #3320]

Everyone overpays at one time or the other. No need to get defensive about it. That's why first hand reports are so important, so you can find out the local price and don't put up for gouging, if it exists.

I NEVER over -pay! Period! At least not in last 10 years or so.

Its the mongering experience which keeps me in the safe zone, in different countries in the world. I can not be learning language of every country!

Its also a fact that in 3 rd world countries, locals always have to pay lesser than foreigners for everything including pussy ( exceptions are there of course). Once we accept the fact, life will be easier and this issue of over-paying will have no meaning!

I have mongered in over 150 cities in the world in last 20 years and I know what I am talking about.

Sometime, I do pay extra but its willingly / knowingly / deliberately as a form of charity or for paying the "tax" for being a foreigner..but its all knowingly/willingly/willfully!

For those, whom it may matter..at the puerto madero privado, i paid the local price. Whether you like it or not, its a high end privado NOT meant for mongers who prefer the 70 peso privados!

[Argento]

Captain, keep your hair on. If you read my post carefully I did not say you overpaid. I merely noted the discrepancy between the 250 la hora quoted by Eddinger and the 300 las hora reported by you. I guess the extra 50 is for BBBJ. Useful to know if that is the case when I visit there in a couple of weeks time, after which I will report my own experience.

In no way was I implying that you are an inexperienced monger in the habit of over-paying, on the contrary. Unlike some senior members of this forum, (who seem to prefer attacking Obama or badmouthing everything about Argentina) you have published many detailed and relevant first hand accounts, which have been much appreciated.

If you've never over-paid you're smarter than I am. It happens less often than when I made my first visits a few years back and before I know about this forum. But even last year, I over-paid a few times in clubs and privados, and only found out later. If you visit a place that's never been mentioned here its easy to be fooled, especially if you meet a chica that really turns you on.

I originally thought I would let Lysander's caustic aside pass but on second thoughts, seeing he has been called to account for his smart ass comments by Captain, (note the hasty retreat) and this is the second time he has had a cheap shot at me, I decided to reply. Firstly I live here and I post of my experiences as a resident and I try to tell it as it is. As does El Alamo and Rockharders. Their posts on Argentine business ethics and government corruption are a mirror of mine. So I guess it is OK to say that expatriates doing business here get ripped off, robbed and have to run the gauntlet of corrupt and envious government officials. So our experiences are different from mongers here a few times a year to enjoy their particular interests whether it is dancing, chicas or hearty meat meals. But that hardly makes such visitors experts. Now Lysander is also an expatriate Australian who is a regular visitor to Australia. But since he hasn't lived there as an adult, that doesn't make him any more of an expert on Australia than a few visits a year to Buenos Aires makes him an expert on Argentina.

So Lysander, if my posts offend you, don't read them. If you find fault with them, point it out and give some objective criticism. I am a big boy and I won't cry. You may recall from your youth in Australia, the saying, "Play the ball, not the man." If my facts are wrong, "Have a go ya mug".

Argento

[Lysander]

From what I remember, she quoted me 250 for 1 hour with CBJ and no DFK.

I NEVER over pay!

P. S:- Though I was hoping someone would appreciate that I have actually posted FIRST-HAND info on this privado over and above the tidbits posted so far on this one. Such kind of accusation on a experienced BA / worldwide monger like me that I over payed and made it expensive for other foreigners discourages me to write absolutely anything about 4-5 other new (yet to be published on this board) privados I experienced in last 2-3 days. Lest, someone who has never visited that particular privado / would come to know of it ONLY after reading my post, would comment that I over-payed and made it tougher for them!

Wow!

Suerte!

Captain, keep your hair on. If you read my post carefully I did not say you overpaid. I merely noted the discrepancy between the 250 la hora quoted by Eddinger and the 300 las hora reported by you. I guess the extra 50 is for BBBJ. Useful to know if that is the case when I visit there in a couple of weeks time, after which I will report my own experience.

In no way was I implying that you are an inexperienced monger in the habit of over-paying, on the contrary. Unlike some senior members of this forum, (who seem to prefer attacking Obama or badmouthing everything about Argentina) you have published many detailed and relevant first hand accounts, which have been much appreciated.

If you've never over-paid you're smarter than I am. It happens less often than when I made my first visits a few years back and before I know about this forum. But even last year, I over-paid a few times in clubs and privados, and only found out later. If you visit a place that's never been mentioned here its easy to be fooled, especially if you meet a chica that really turns you on.

[Jaimito Cartero]

From what I remember, she quoted me 250 for 1 hour with CBJ and no DFK.

I NEVER over pay!

Everyone overpays at one time or the other. No need to get defensive about it. That's why first hand reports are so important, so you can find out the local price and don't put up for gouging, if it exists.

[Wild Walleye]

took one of the "8"s. Good looking girl, 100% uninhibited sex inclusive of BBBJ, DFK, CIM, COF, COLA.

Great report. Thanks. Do you recall the name of said chica?

[Member #3320]

so be worth checking whether the 250 half hour and 300 the hour quoted by Captain is just for foreigners. It seems a nice place so would be a pity to establish a precedent for over-paying.

From what I remember, she quoted me 250 for 1 hour with CBJ and no DFK.

I NEVER over pay!


P.S:- Though i was hoping someone would appreciate that I have actually posted FIRST-HAND info on this privado over and above the tidbits posted so far on this one. Such kind of accusation on a experienced BA/worldwide monger like me that I over payed and made it expensive for other foreigners discourages me to write absolutely anything about 4-5 other new( yet to be published on this board) privados I experienced in last 2-3 days. Lest, someone who has never visited that particular privado /would come to know of it ONLY after reading my post,would comment that I over-payed and made it tougher for them!

wow!

Suerte!!

[Member #3320]

Hi Captian.

Or any one who has been here.

Whats the nearest cross street to tell taxi?

Muchas Gracias.

I like to pay a visit here while I am still here.

I am not sure about the cross street. The taxi driver will take you there sum how the other for sure. Or you can call up the privado (from the phone number at the website) and ask them the exact cross street.

OR.

Try hunting on Google Maps.

OR.

Try using a GUIA "t" de Bolsillo. It is the BA road, subte, bus map.

[Lysander]

Hi Captian.

Or any one who has been here.

Whats the nearest cross street to tell taxi?

Muchas Gracias.

I like to pay a visit here while I am still here.

El Alamo is probably right. So the address must be 786, 25 de Majo, Apt 58, piso 9. 786 means its just right near where 25 de Majo crosses Cordoba (or a couple of blocks away from Cafe Orleans.

If you are staying anywhere in Microcentre its close enough to walk.

In the email received by Eddinger it says "El precio es de $170 la media hora y $250 la hora", so be worth checking whether the 250 half hour and 300 the hour quoted by Captain is just for foreigners. It seems a nice place so would be a pity to establish a precedent for over-paying.

[SFTraveller]

Hi Captian.

Or any one who has been here.

Whats the nearest cross street to tell taxi?

Muchas Gracias.

I like to pay a visit here while I am still here.

[El Alamo]

Avenida de Mayo and Cordoba do not cross. They run parallel to each other 9 blocks apart.

They probably meant 25 de Mayo and Cordaba which is close to Puerto Madero.

Probably only the Lewis and Clark's of this board such as Jackson, Moondog, Rock Harders, Andre etc remember the days when the escort websites were the wild west. Half the photos were of porn stars (sure, Jena Jameson is in Buenos Aires and selling her pussy for $100 pesos) and stiffing extranjeros was an art form.

Today, except for a few obscure websites, photos of porn stars are nonexistant and the privados are finally learning that short changing customers is not an especially smart business practice.

With the controlled collapse of the peso and the huge influx of hot pussy forced to sell their bodies to survive (thanks to those Nobel Prize winning economists Nestor and Christina Kirshner) we have never had it so good.

[Member #3320]

ADDRESS:- 25 de Avenida de Mayo, Building No. 786, Apt no. 58 on floor 9

Its actually located almost in microcentro but for reasons unknown to me, they prefer to call themselves a puerto madero privado.

WEBSITE:- http://www.puertomaderohot.com/

WORKING HOURS: 24 H (not sure if Sunday they are open)

PRICES: 300 ARS for 1 hour inclusive of BBBJ. However add a 50 ARS fees to get Cola. 350 ARS is also the home take away fees. 250 ARS for 30 minutes.

APARTMENT: Decent look building, elevator. No attached bathroom.

MADAM: Polite.

GIRLS: Line up of 6 girls and at least one 9 and two 8s and rest of the three "7"S.

DID I PARTAKE: Yes, took one of the "8"s. Good looking girl, 100% uninhibited sex inclusive of BBBJ, DFK, CIM, COF, COLA.

SATISFACTION: 100%

WILL I REPEAT:YES.

SAFETY ISSUES: NONE.

NON-SPANISH SPEAKING MONGERS: Yes, you guys CAN partake. Just confirm from Madam to ask the girls before you pay up if she (the girl you choose) is ok with DFK, CIM or any fantasy you may have in mind! Keep a placard with you handy all the time with the Spanish terminology of the services you require.

[Wild Walleye]

Boxing the clown, bopping the baloney, punching the dolphin, choking the chicken. You know, cardo exercise for married guys.

[Tessan]

I called today and they said they were near Avenida de Mayo near Cordoba. Good marketing play as they are still I believe technically in microcenter. Still hopeful for a post.

Avenida de Mayo and Cordoba do not cross. They run parallel to each other 9 blocks apart.