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  1. #30

    Where are the true VIP Escorts?

    I understand what has been said; certainly true magazine models are not necessarily escorts, although in New York City it is not uncommon for models to escort through select, VIP agencies that charge $600 US / hour up to $2000. And then there are the porn stars.

    But, in looking at the escort sites and reading the threads I am struck by several things:

    1) Most of the girls are older, late twenties as opposed to the 18-22 standard one finds in Colombia for example.

    2) The prices are $100-300 Pesos / hour but there don't seem to be any in the $400-600 Peso range.

    3) There seem to be very few really gorgeous girls on the websites or even in the testimony from the board. A few members suggest they top models have gone elsewhere, e.g. Cancun or Costa Rica or Madrid. But, the thing is, each year produces a new crop of 18 year old girls who need money. They can't all be going out of town. Or, even if the local standard for escorts is 21 (not sure about that) then where are they real knock-outs? Isn't there an agency that preselects for quality and charges a premium for it like they do in the US?

    Of course I would like to get by for no more than $100 US (but if it cost $150 to get something that costs $750 in NYC I would consider it. Any comments?

  2. #29
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    Well Mongers here it is from the one person that should know, Roxana herself.

    Roxana I hope you don't mind me posting this, If so I would glady delete it. But I find your comments on this subject very valuable to those of us interested in "High End Mongering", "Trophy Fuck's".

    Reading between the lines it seams possible but you'd better be able to speak much better Spanish that I do and bring plenty of money.

    Roxana's Comments below.

    Thank You Roxana.

    Exon.

    Models.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Yes, Exon told me about the research and I told him that I was going to give him my insight but I couldn't yet as I've been very busy. So, I'll tell you my experience in this field; models; real ones.

    Three years ago aguy wanted the same and he came to BA and we organized interviews and photo shootings with 4 agencies. They sent the models, we did it, he paid them what it was agreed with the agents and of course, he wasn't interested in the pics. Or the interviews; like you, he wanted to have sex with them. We tried to get their personal phone numbers and it was impossible; they didn't want to give personal info. And they said that we needed to contact the agents for everything. We were able to get two of the models' tel. Numbers and when I called them inviting them for a drink and dinner with the guy, they said that they didn't go out with the clients, and no way to convince them; no money accepted, nothing.

    The following day, the agents called me saying that it was wrong what the guy tried to do, they were pissed off, and they said that the models were models; not prostitutes or escorts.

    My opinion:

    I know for sure that a lot of the models are escorts and prostitutes, but the way to get those services is something that I don't manage and I don't want to manage either as I'm not interested in them as 99.99% of my clients don't mind about models and they won't pay their fees either.

    I'm not interested in contacting them as I don't want any angry agent calling me after the guy is back and safe in his country while I live and work here while one of my goals is to have good relations with everybody.

    Money is money, so it doesn't matter if you are Americans or whatever; I'm trying to tell you that if you think that because you are Americans they will be interested in having something with you, you are wrong. If they are interested, it will be only for the money stuff as all the girls who decide to work as escorts.

    Don't think that I don't want to help you; but I did this experience in the past and it was lack of succes for the guy as he spent money and finally he didn't get any sex with models, and I don't like to work for a person who won't get what he's looking for.

    I'll send a copy of this to Exon too.

  3. #28

    Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by Lcheg
    Hi to all.

    I just joined as I am about to go to Argentina in a few weeks and having heard so much about the girls I thought I would investigate. I see that most comments are about girls in the 120 to 300 peso range I so far from the pictures they are not my scene. I am happy to pay 300 $US or so for a really cute, non pro looking more model looking girl. BUT where do I look?

    WHat and where do I get a girl like this.

    Thanks
    You don't really mean 300$ US do you? If so, that's too much money. In my limted experience the more you pay the less you'll get. You wouldn't pay 50$ for a Big Mac then expect it to better than a 2$ version. Why? Because it's the same. These gals have nothing lose in asking for 300$ US but you can refuse to be a chump. Look elsewhere if you have to.

  4. #27
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    JengisKhan,

    I believe there are many hot girls working in Argentina. I shagged several last week (one was a 9 IMO) in Mar Del Plata apartments for p60 each. Plenty of such apartments exist in BA as well.

    I agree completely with your comments about the more submissive and permissive attitute/behavior of a Latin American girl compared with Europe and of course USA. This is the case for both pros and regular girls in my experience here. The regular girls here are far more "slutty" than the whoares. I fuck many in the ass, blow on their tonsils, etc. Most are very passionate and simply don't say no in bed.

    Argentina is generally a socially/sexually liberal country and Im sure that helps. I used to know and bang a Chilean girl in Santiago that had Argentine cousins - she could not believe the things her cousins did like 2 guys at once, etc. And Im talking amateurs.

    Thats another great aspect of the argentinas, many are beautiful, elegant, sexy, and educated European stock, yet they generally have the stereotypical submissive "please your man" attitute that is often associated with South American women. The best of both worlds.

    Many Argentine girls are raised with the credo "you must be an elegant woman in public but a good whoare in bed". I dont believe many US girls are taught that.

  5. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Lcheg
    Hi again,

    Just thought I would clarify! I live in Barcelona and for 300$ you can get a cute girl. Perhaps not a catwalk model but very cute. For 500 you can get a model. Even for 150 200 range if you look there are some stunneres. Now, I thought that Argentina with all the beautiful girls and cheaper prices would have the same on offer but cheaper. I can't seem to find any agencies / freelancers that seem to be in this range. They seem to be on the lower end. Or have I missed something? Again I don't have to meet Miss Argentina or Vogue cover models, just cute girls that know they can charge more.

    Thanks again
    I hate to post this, because it reveals what a sick twisted f_ck I am, but here goes.

    I lived in Spain for a few years, here is what the main difference is. The girls in Spain are hot, and there are lots of Argentine, Paraguayan, Colombian, Venezuelan, and Brazilian beaties to be had. The girls here are hot, but definitely not as hot as the high priced ladies (talking 200-300 euros per hour girls) However, in Spain, try to ask a girl to take it in the face or in the mouth, or lick your crack or even BBBJ, and its a lot harder to pull it off. Seems like all the girls here do those things for the right $$$$ (and that amounts to US$10-20 or less) God bless 'em!

  6. #25

    clarify

    Hi again,

    Just thought I would clarify! I live in Barcelona and for 300$ you can get a cute girl. Perhaps not a catwalk model but very cute. For 500 you can get a model. Even for 150 200 range if you look there are some stunneres. Now, I thought that Argentina with all the beautiful girls and cheaper prices would have the same on offer but cheaper. I can't seem to find any agencies / freelancers that seem to be in this range. They seem to be on the lower end. Or have I missed something? Again I don't have to meet Miss Argentina or Vogue cover models, just cute girls that know they can charge more.

    Thanks again

    Hi Lcheg,

    One phenomenon that you should be aware of: Since the devaluation of the Argentina Peso in late 2001, a disappointedly high number of "top level escorts" have left Argentina to work in Cancun, Mexico, Madrid and elsewhere throughout Europe.

    In other words, it's entirely possible that one of the reasons that the European escort websites you visit have such a high percentage of what you consider "top level escorts" is because of this "Argentina Invasion", which also means that it's entirely possible that you will be disappointed at what's on the menu here in BA.

    Thanks,

    Jackson



  7. #24
    Lcheg,

    What you say is practically the worst kind of kryptonite to the minds of most posters here. Most will not be even able to compute what you are asking for, but if they do, expect many to lash out with irrational statements and insults.

    As far as cabarets go, you should be happy in Blacks.

    If you do find model quality escorts, please post here and let me know. I would be interested.

    Marak

  8. #23

    Top girls

    Hi to all.

    I just joined as I am about to go to Argentina in a few weeks and having heard so much about the girls I thought I would investigate. I see that most comments are about girls in the 120 to 300 peso range I so far from the pictures they are not my scene. I am happy to pay 300 $US or so for a really cute, non pro looking more model looking girl. BUT where do I look?

    WHat and where do I get a girl like this.

    Thanks

  9. #22
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    In general, sleeping with models is not as hard as most would think, but it's also not as easy as most would think. Whether it's the average to elite model in Argentina or in Los Angeles.

    In short, other than the genuine she-likes-you truly type of hookup, which of course can happen but is a lot rarer than the other way around, having just money isn't going to cut it (most of the time) You also need what could best be categorized as influence. The influence to affect or at least aid in where she wants to go.

    There are a lot more men with just money that would like to spend time with them, and assuming that Argentina due to the general lower economic scale is any different is in my opinion fairly naive. There are far more than enough men, wealtheir locals or visiting foreigners, with money to give if that's all the girls wanted - and to assume all models slept around to get to where they are or will sleep around now that they are there is also naive. Some do, some don't. Just like some non-models are easier and some aren't. It's just life, not a categorization of a profession. I've known porn actresses that in personal life are a heck of a lot less prone to get intimate any faster than your average girl.

    Whether these models in BA themselves are any higher class than the girl working a counter in some shop isn't relevant - men will pay a premium to be with women they can say is a model on their arm, or in their bed. So if they'd be on the menu as some say here, they're already on a far higher priced menu - but my opinion is they are not. At least, not the really beautiful ones that want that shot to make it to the truly elite levels of modeling. That doesn't mean they won't sleep around, just that as stated above they'll be fairly picky about it and choose men that can provide that influence on their career they think is positive. The Dotto girls aren't, in my opinion, trying to get where Pamela David is - you can be known as an ex-call girl and become a well known nude magazine model. The true elite level of modeling, where the real money is at, is harshly unforgiving there. Crack, cocaine, whatever, no big deal. Have it get out you used to turn tricks or have sex with sex tourists - good bye to any shot with Ford Models or any of the world's elite modeling houses.

    The Argentinian models that really want to make it internationally are going to want to get from Dottos to Ford Models, or to EMM, or to any of the other handful of truly world class modeling agencies. They're not going to get there if their past includes actual pay for play sex trade work. Sleeping around like a tramp with every casting call, photographer, politician, influential man she's met - zero problems. That's just the "business".

    So wihile I think these BA models will be the same and only sleep around with men with the allure and real life possibility / probability of gain to their career, I wish you all luck - but I'd try the actual influence+money angle if you ahve the means to do so before just the horny monger with some money to spend strategy.

  10. #21
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    Talking

    We might be getting closer than most of us might Think.

    My main man for today Robert Dean was kind enough to put me on the right trial with a PM to Exon.

    Which give's us all an example of how this board should be properly used to exchange useful information on getting laid --- Anyway.

    www.rpmodelos.net --- check this out Mongers.

    I can't get the site to work properly but by hitting the refresh button the tallent changes with every click.

    This is a Job for Roxana.

    Roxana when you read this I need a favior. Give this "Richardo Pinero" Modeling Agency a call and inquire if some of thease young ladies might be available for "Dates" with American Gentle Mongers and try and get some pricing for appearences, such as a "Foto Shoot at El Alamo for a couple of hours --- Possibly intimate fashion or swim suit modeling type of thing --- If you would Please post back to us on the board so everyone will be informed and I'll be happy to pay double for such a favior when I see you next, which will be soon.

    Love You Honey.

    Exon

    PS Doing a little quick research I find that this Richardo Pinero Agency handles "Maria Vasquez" one of the girls named on the site I posted below. Now you guys check her and tell me --- I say she's "Working"

    http://www.diosasdeargentina.com.ar/...z/vazquez.html
    Last edited by Exon123; 02-11-06 at 20:24. Reason: Add to the post

  11. #20

    Agencies

    Hi guys,

    I think Dotto Models and Multitalent Agency are the two big names in Argentine modelling. I would not be surprised if Pancho Dotto has spent let's say some nice moments with some of his discoveries.

    Maybe we can pool some money to have some intimate sexy fashion show with a bunch of these lovely girls? I particularly fancy Rocio Guirao Diaz, a gorgeous blond lolita, and Luli Fernandez, called the new Pampita.

    Take care,

    Marco

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    Talking

    Robert Dean.

    Do you have the name of the Agency, if so please post it or PM me, I'd be very interested. No very, very interested. I love the idea of a well known Agency acting very discreetly in procurement and recruiting.

    I believe just the opposite of what Hemin infers to below. I believe thease girls are not just on the "Menu" but very approchable as well. We just need to know how to find them.

    (Andres if your reading this, your comments Please)

    A lot of them I've seen in very suggestive magazines half naked and so forth, there not affraid to take their cloths off for money. Thats the first step Mongers.

    My hunch is that thease girls keep pretty much a low profile because they can. Thats to say that they have rich Argentine Boy friends that make sure thease lady's are comfortable for the services they provide. They don't need the publicity of a website. Moreover their Agent will tell them when and where their going to work and for how much.

    If you stop and think about it, being an Argentine fashion model can't pay that much money. They don't have PHD's or any real job skills, no all they have is beauty, awsume I might add. They do not get speaking parts, their jobs are to just look gorgeous. El Alamo, Peter told me once that Pamela David seen on that website I posted below started out in a "Privato" at $60 peso's an hour.

    Anyway even if their "Kept Women" so to speak I'm betting they'll be up for some "Hanky Panky" if the price is right.

    This just might be a very good job to employ Roxana's services.

    This is a subject that requires more research.

    Exon

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    I've been told that there's a well-known local agency that would do the job, very discreetly. Website presently in construction. Has anyone heard of it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exon123
    Strange that you might ask Robert Dean.

    I've done some research on this subject and have put their names in search engines such as Google & Yahoo and sure enough they have International standing on the world wide web. But the problem I've found is I've never been able to find any contact information on thease girls. OK, they must have "Agents" whom know how to reach them.

    Hers the an Idea for all of Us. Somehow we contact a few of thease girls, threw their Agents or however and Invite them to "Ladies Night at El Alamo"on the pretense that, well Hell I don't know, there famious and we just want to meet them. After that the realities of "Hard Ball" economic's would "Kick In", which very well might lead to some very "High End Mongering" at the right price. I see very little "Down Side" to this approch with much to gain on the "Up Side"

    Exon

  14. #17
    IMHO, if anyone can sweet talk these chicas to come to El Alamo would be CAPT Dave. Before the night is over he'll have them blowing him behind the upstairs bar.

    Come on CAPT Dave, are you up to the task?

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    Naaaaw Hemin,

    I found over the years that money doesn't Talk, it "Screams" and the Argentine mentality is motived by just three simple things.

    Theres "Greed", then of course there "Greed", then theres "Greed" again.

    What we'll do is tell "Em" were a bunch of American picture takers and offer them a small show up fee to come to the El Alamo for a couple hours to take pictures. Then we'll ply them with a bunch of wine and "Bull Shit" while slowly wispering in their ear's "Would you like to go to my place and Fuck for a few Peso's".

    It Can't Miss.

    Exon

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