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01-25-12 04:07 #58Senior Member

Posts: 1064Mormons & public opinion: general public vs mormon perceptions
The following link is worth skimming. Rather than relying upon prejudice or a friend of a friend who has a mormon neighbor, factual info never hurts:
http://www.pewforum.org/Christian/Mo...e-summary.aspx
It's interesting and look at some of the footnoted links. My own ignorance is surprising to me. Much of what I thought was so just is not part of current common mormon belief. Like many different groups there is a wide range of mormon points of view-but they tend to be extremely "socially" and politically conservative.
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01-25-12 01:56 #57Senior Member

Posts: 1064Exxon-look at the recent polling data: your feeling about mormons is not shared by most
Hate and prejudice aren't great qualities. Obama is slightly ahead of mitt, but Obama kills everyone else. I feel like el alamo, but not as strongly anti-Obama. Newt would make george W look like abraham lincoln.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...andidates.html
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01-25-12 01:46 #56Senior Member

Posts: 1064After watching Obama's stae of the union: we need a troika
Obama: to make the tv speaches.
Mitt: to do the the policy analysis.
Carl rove: to control public opinion.
They could run the government with underlings:
Newt as court jester.
Rick santorum as ambassador to the dieties.
Rick perry to lead a commissioner in charge of dementia as the baby boomer age and there are few entitlements to help them in the later years, help for impoverished seniors will be a crutial compoment of contuing the american dream.
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The republican reply speech is boring-this guy should have rev wright help him punch-up his public speaking skills.
O-we could stroll into the future hand in hand-republican and democrat side by side mitch daniels he's the man, if he can't do it the ghost of abraham lincoln can.
There is a sad state to this union-both parties suck. I am going to watch: mr deeds comes to town on netflix. Maybe we can teach mitt to do a good jimmy stewart imitation?
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01-23-12 19:22 #55Senior Member

Posts: 705As much as I am convinced Obama has no idea how a free enterprise economy functions, Obama is not all bad. I would have to close my eyes, hold my nose and be highly drugged or intoxicated to vote for Gringrich for President. Congressman or Senator. No problem. But President? Then again, maybe Gringrich is just what we need.
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01-23-12 18:35 #54Senior Member

Posts: 62That's what they used to say about Reagan, and look what happened.
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01-23-12 16:04 #53Senior Member

Posts: 129Hope the disgraced former Speaker wins the GOP
It would make my day if the former Congressman and lobbyist, Newt Gingrich wins the GOP Presidential nomination!
That basically guarantees another term for President, Barack Obama.
Originally Posted by Exon123
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01-22-12 17:02 #52Senior Member

Posts: 147I was referring to the fact that Toymann started insulting me when I stated that Willard the Mormon Wienie had no chance of winning in South Carolina even with the help of his Mormon friend Huntsman's support. I was right, he was wrong, being liberal or conservative has nothing to do with it. If you read back, my problem was with a candidate who will put his church before his country. Not with the Republicans per se. I quite like the possibility of a Republican free love candidate winning.
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01-22-12 16:35 #51Senior Member

Posts: 705"Not a free thinking liberal, just more intelligent than you are"
Now that is a hot one. Intelligent liberal. Sure to rise to the top of the oxymoron charts along with jumbo shrimp, paid volunteer, slightly pregnant etc.
I think Albert Einstein got it right when he said that if you are not a liberal when you are 20 years old you have no heart. If you are still a liberal when you are 30 years old you have no brain
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01-22-12 15:58 #50Senior Member

Posts: 147Not a free thinking liberal, just more intelligent than you are.
Originally Posted by Toymann
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01-21-12 14:50 #49Senior Member

Posts: 129One GOP down, a few more to go
Well, that's it for Mr. Outhouse himself, Governor Rick Perry.
Originally Posted by Big Boss Man
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No more SNL skits portraying his stupidity.
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01-18-12 18:48 #48Senior Member

Posts: 705Government gone amuck
If this is not the stupidest thing Big Brother has done, I don't know what is.
Los Angeles is going to monitor XXX films, require the use of condoms in porn films and penalize those not using condoms.
As far as I can tell the LA porn industry probaby films a couple hundred sex scenes a day. Some with condoms some without condoms.
In private, probably hundreds of thousands (million??) of sex acts are performed daily. Some with condoms some without condoms.
But the Big Brother lovers ie advocates of unlimited government intrusion into our lifes and advocates of increasing taxes to fund this intrusion into our lifes, want to alocate valuable personal and money to police the couple of hundred sex acts performed daily by the porn industry.
I say, tell Nancy Pelosi to fund it out of her own pocket or, preferably force that ***** into the porn induistry and get fucked in the ass, every hour of every day for several years, by some Neandrathal with a 15 inch dick. Maybe then she will see the value of putting government back in its cage.
Unfortuneately, in this case, these regulations are probably advocated by the bird brain evangelical right. Who in their own way are just as moronic as the bird brain fanatical left.
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01-18-12 18:05
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01-18-12 17:58 #47Senior Member

Posts: 707Never understood fascination with Perry.
I thought the guy was interesting until I started looking into it. His release of his financials was the eye opener. Basically he has a government pension of a $100k a year. He owes $250k to Vanderbilt for his kid's education. I guess there is some family money from ranch land. My Dad's rule of thumb was never to listen to any guy with less money than yourself. I was thinking that Rick and I should sit down and have the money conversation.
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As a Californian I think Texas is doing some great stuff economically but I am fairly sure it was not due to Perry's vision.
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01-18-12 17:30 #46Senior Member

Posts: 705I have always admired Barak Obama, especially the last several years. He never ceases to amaze me with his complete lack of knowledge of the free enterprise system and his inferior mental capacity. His most recent gaffe, asking to increase the debt ceiling by another 1.2 trillion dollars, is his latest gem.
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Wow, this moron needs to go back to indonesia, where he was born, and stop embarrassing the Democratic Party
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01-18-12 15:17 #45Senior Member

Posts: 129The GOP Presidential Debates: Starring Texas Governor Rick Perry as the village idiot
I have always admired Texas Governor Rick Perry, especially the last several years. He never ceases to amaze me with his complete lack of geopolitical knowledge and his inferior mental incapacity. His most recent gaffe, calling out Turkey as being "ruled by Islamist Terrorists" is his latest gem.
Wow. This moron needs to go back to the plains of Texas and stop embarrassing the Republican Party as in now.
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01-17-12 14:22 #44Senior Member

Posts: 9122012 Election Cycle and the Anointed One
While the GOP candidates are doing their dead level best to kill each other in the primaries, YES Bob they will say anything to get elected, Obama merrily trips along cutting the military, increasing welfare and deciding the Constitution of the United States is not worth the paper it is written on with his recess appointments.
I know our left wing brothers on this board are gloating but when the 2012 elections roll around in November what exactly will Obama run on? You can bet your bottom dollar it will not be his record.
Add to this the thrashing Obama and his Justice Department lackey Erick Holder are about to receive from the Supreme Court this summer on ObamaCare, state immigration laws, redistricting, and a few other cases, I'm not sure he will be able to blame everyone else for his failures.
Obama's own words are already biting him in the ass now and the GOP is still involved in primaries, wait until they have a candidate and turn all that money and venom on the Anointed One. How ugly will it get this summer, pretty ugly.
I'm pretty sure Mitt will end up with the nomination so it will make for an interesting election cycle this year.


