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02-02-15 21:59 #94
Posts: 776Originally Posted by BadMan [View Original Post]
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02-02-15 00:46 #93
Posts: 776Originally Posted by BadMan [View Original Post]
I'm looking at a list of the world's wealthiest people, some of the 80 Americans who you say have more net worth than 60% of the American population. The companies that were created and owned in part by these people include Microsoft, Berkshire Hathaway, Oracle, Walmart, Facebook, Amazon, Google, and I could go on. You appear to be saying that we would all be better off if these companies had never been created? If we had a Socialist or Communist system so that ownership would be vested in government or the people? If so how do you think these companies would have ever gotten off the ground if the first place? I suspect I'm misinterpreting what you're trying to say. Please correct me.
I'm also not sure I understand what you're trying to say about the Fed and banks. Are you advocating something like the gold standard? Or just higher capital ratios and better regulations for banks, so that presumably they won't go bankrupt and leave the taxpayer holding the bag?
Banks do not own America or control the majority of American politicians. They do control some, like Hillary Clinton.
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02-01-15 16:04 #92
Posts: 319Rights vs rights violating
Yet when I have stated that the only legitimate purpose of government is the protection of individual rights I m berated by the leftist in the forum.
You can't have a little bit of rights violating.
Don B.
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02-01-15 15:14 #91
Posts: 1064Political Power, vote = Tax Liability
That you for you insight as where where you believe the USA should go in terms of balancing the rights of individual citizen or residence vs the uber rich and corp rights. The framers of the USA constitution spoke of individual liberty and freedom of the individual. The USA has spent 200 years with a general set of political underpinnings. The view of the future you suggest is repulsive to many who are concerned about this misdirection. The origins of the tea party and occupy wall street share concerns about the misdirection towards basing politics upon tax liability. The tea party has been virtually coopted by the uber wealthy. The Koch brother announced this part week their budget for the next presidential election cycle. Their individual contributions are in the same range as the total spending by either the republicans or the democrats.
This type of concentration of political will is a nightmare and the end of the system of distribution of power as we have know it since the days of teddy roosevelt. We are headed back to the gilded age for whole sale political corruption is terms of the government acting for the benefit of the majority's self interest. Individuals can be manipulated by billions of dollars of public relations and propaganda. History will repeat it self as bad points out. This saddens anyone who view is about more than their individual tax bill and the next 2 years.
Maybe the USA constitution should be amended to permit business entities to have a vote. Since we only want to encourage power to big business, one vote for each ten billion dollars in net worth.
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01-30-15 04:55 #90
Posts: 1657I do hope the average American understands that this can't last forever. Nothing lasts forever and monetary cycles have extremely short life spans. Kondratiev etc. Most Americans are willing to ride this out til the wheels fall off. They deserve what's coming to them. The rest will hedge accordingly.
Central banks and government entities around the world are now dominant players in the stock market with some $30 trillion invested in equities and other assets, according to a new survey released this week offering the first comprehensive analysis of public-sector investments. About half of that is from central banks. In other words, monetary authorities, which conjure fiat currency into existence out of thin air, are using much of that funny money to gobble up real assets propping up stock prices but eroding the value of peoples savings through inflation of the currency supply. The significance of the findings is monumental.
Congrats.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/markets/item/18520-central-banks-now-dominate-stock-market-study-finds
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/d9dfad02-f462-11e3-a143-00144feabdc0,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2Fd9dfad02-f462-11e3-a143-00144feabdc0.html%3Fsiteedition%3Duk&siteedition=uk&_i_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fnews%2F2014-06-15%2Fcluster-central-banks-have-secretly-invested-29-trillion-market#axzz34ktExR6g
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/central-banks-becoming-major-investors-in-stock-markets-2014-06-16
http://www.secretsofthefed.com/central-banking-cartel-owns-almost-half-worlds-stock-markets/
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01-30-15 00:00 #89
Posts: 1657Corporations can't vote? Are you kidding me. Their vote is the only vote that matters.
Corporations are owned by the banks which are owned by American oligarchs. Who do you think owns 70% of our stock market? About 80 Americans have more money than 60% of the American population. I'm sure they " earned " that money. And you want to give these 80 oligarchs tax breaks? LOL. Come on.
The banks that own the corporations that own our politicians own the country. As long as Americans keep giving away every last inch of land, every last freedom that was promised to us in the Constitution those 80+ individuals will do as they will with the country and its sedated masses.
American corruption is no different than any other form of corruption other than the fact that Americans are in denial about it. Weve had a two party corporately sponsored " democracy " for hundreds of years and we still pretend voting matters andn we live in a true democracy?
When a group of oligarchs are given the power to print money as they see fit and charge the American tax payer interest for using their own money, and then relend that money to the same tax payer for more interest and then take those deposited funds and multiply them by 10 and relend that imaginary money to other tax payers, you know the country nor its people are free. Were living in one giant ponzi. Scheme. And all the window dressing in the world can't cover up this basic truth anymore.
" Truth is treason in an empire of lies". Or we can just say conspiracy and tin foil and all is forgotten.
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01-29-15 16:47 #88
Posts: 2556
Venues: 398Originally Posted by MiamiBob [View Original Post]
MB, I recognize that you were disappointed at the Citizens United court decision and the resulting "super pac's gorging on money" because the American voters are now being exposed to more non-liberal points of view, but I would remind you that corporations are legal entities that cannot vote but are nevertheless required to pay taxes, a classic "taxation without representation" scenario.
If you don't want corporations pumping money into political issues, then stop taxing them. Otherwise, please accept that collective media purchases are the only method that corporations have to defend themselves against government attacks on their businesses and their income by every salivating politician and their "I want free money" constituents.
Thanks,
Jax.
P.S.: For those of you who are concerned about the impact of this on the Federal budget (liberals hereby excluded), if corporations were not taxed, their higher profits would be passed on as dividends to their stockholders who would subsequently pay more income taxes on their now higher income.
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01-29-15 13:20 #87
Posts: 1657Originally Posted by WildWalleye [View Original Post]
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01-27-15 18:31 #86
Posts: 1886Originally Posted by Pedropolar [View Original Post]
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01-25-15 14:19 #85
Posts: 2701Not Suicide
It looks like it was Murder.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/world/art...es-6038002.php
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01-25-15 02:35 #84
Posts: 30Shot point-blank in the forehead
Originally Posted by Gandolf50 [View Original Post]
Yup, people who commit suicide always shoot themselves in the forehead.
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01-24-15 16:14 #83
Posts: 911Originally Posted by Tres3 [View Original Post]
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01-24-15 11:51 #82
Posts: 577CFK Confirmed that She Lives in Fantasyland
In an article in the Miami Herald, CFK now says that Nisman did not commit suicide. She now says that he was killed by a conspiracy of her political enemies who want to discredit her. Unbelievable!
Tres3.
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01-21-15 04:37 #81
Posts: 1064Demonstration by the Casa Rosa Is Dona K finally out?
What is the word on the street in BA. On the USA tv it looks like lots of very angry folks have had it with the current president?
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01-21-15 04:22 #80
Posts: 1064Bad we are watching the down fall of a great experiment in the USA
It's so sad. The super pac's gorging on money. The process continues to fall apart. I hope that something changes the current dirrection.