Clubs and Boliches - General Info

[JamesBond69]

I Have. Twice.

And this is strange because the girls are there for one primary reason - to make money. Often they are single mothers living day to day or in one case ditching there 6,000 peso a month job in a Kiosco to make some quick money to travel. And looks have nothing to do with it. There is an expression in Spanish that translates that the wallet trumps the playboy.

So why was I turned down twice but two different girls, both first rate I may add.

In some cases potential clients are refused because a client mistreats a girl in some way and word gets around that he is a "grossero" and he is black listed but that't not my situation.

It could be the girl is not feeling well or having her period but in my case I also I think it's something else, as the same girls left with all sorts of clients afterwards - old, young, slim, obese, ugly, handsome, locals, foreigners, even a few that were obviously drunk.

N both cases when the girl refused to leave with me I had a previous exchange where the girl quoted me a price higher than I was prepared to pay and I walked away. The next day I approached the same girl and offered to pay double what she offered previously and she still refused to leave with me.

I think the girls have a certain pride and and if you don't agree to their initial price you will never be considered a client. It's not good business sense but it's the way they are thinking and nothing can make them change their minds. In only case when a girl wanted a higher price than I prepared to pay and I went back to her later with my lower offer has a girl backed down and left with me.

Just as the clients have their price the girls have their price also and don't expect them to budge from it. It seldom happens.

Have you been refused service? Curious to get your opinion why?

[BadMan]

Thanks for the info. I might have to check it out. Ill be sure to steer clear of the gun toting Chinese.

[El Perro]

Informative reports about Hook. Keep them coming. If the drink prices weren't so steep I'd think about spending more time there again.

[JamesBond69]

It is good to know that the $100 is still valid in Hook. This price has been fairly solid for at least 3 years now. My experience is that the chicas are happy with it and you will not get any up sell in the room. I have been able to negotiate $50 for a second hour if you get to know one a bit. Some hard line negotiators that I know can break the $100 barrier. I wonder what those Chinese guys pay? My friend says that they do not pay as much as the Japanese but they always attract several girls when they are in the bar.

There is a difference between the Chinese clients and the Korean and Japanese clients at Hook. The Korean and Japanese clients are considered foreigners. They are usually business men on expense accounts and the girls may quote them a bit more than the usual 1,200 - 1,500 pesos. The girls like these clients, some describing them as.

Gentlemen in the bed but probably because they may pay a bit more.These clients speak very little Spanish and the girls discuss business in the very limited English they.

Know.

The Chinese clients are very different. They mostly live in BA and usually own grocery stores. Some girls tell me that some have revolvers in shoulder holsters, not because they are in any kind of organized crime but because they frequently walk around with lots of pesos that they change for blue dollars. Most speak OK Spanish and unlike the Argentines that come in groups and are there more to ogle the girls and chat with their friends they come alone or with one or two others and are there for one reason and we all know what that is. They don't spend much time chatting with the girls and then leave without taking a girl out. The girls consider them sure things as clients and since.

They are regulars don't ask for any more than the usual rate.

On the downside some girls report that the Chinese can be problematic, in that some like rough sex, are somewhat robotic in bed, insist on not using a condom and haggle over the price they agreed upon, often refusing to pay until at the end of the hour.

As for the general opinion that the Asians have small members then non-Asians some girls say they do, some girls say they don't and I'm not about to do any research to.

Find out which it is:-).

Another interesting aspect of Hook and probably all the boliches is that I'm fairly sure that nearly all the girls are bisexual and some are outright lesbians. There are lots of.

Bars in BA for gay men but very few, if any for gay women, so the boliches are places where women hook up with other women. Sometimes there are girls that spend all.

Their time with other women when they could be walking around getting clients but they seem content because they don't work at the boliches just to make money.

They are also there to meet other women, and what better place for women to bond than in a place where they are surrounded by hungry male wolves that regard them.

Only as sex objects for their satisfaction.

[Big Boss Man]

Hook has some real stunners, 8's and even a few 10's. I'm not Brad Pitt but I do speak Spanish reasonably well and have done OK with the prices. A few girls won't leave for less than 2,000 pesos but my God they are worth every peso but usually I make an offer of 1,200 pesos for an hour and they accept. Some of the girls who want 2,000 aren't any better than the girls who will settle for 1,200 (100 dollar rate) or 1,500 ($125). The chica drink price is 250 pesos although a few piss me off by asking for champagne and such, which is an extra 50 pesos. If they do that I walk.

It is good to know that the $100 is still valid in Hook. This price has been fairly solid for at least 3 years now. My experience is that the chicas are happy with it and you will not get any up sell in the room. I have been able to negotiate $50 for a second hour if you get to know one a bit. Some hard line negotiators that I know can break the $100 barrier. I wonder what those Chinese guys pay? My friend says that they do not pay as much as the Japanese but they always attract several girls when they are in the bar.

[JamesBond69]

I've been mongering in BA for 3 months now and I agree in general with most of the posts about General Info.

The really "elite" clubs - Sodoma, Madaos, Blacks, etc where the girls charge 2,000 pesos and up and there is a considerable chica drink fine and entrance are gone and I.

Think that is a good thing. Many of those same girls are not working in the smaller boliches and for less. D'liriao seems the only club in that category that is left.

Newport was never my cup of tea and it still has girls that are mostly past their prime, some way past their prime, like grandmothers.

That leaves Estilo Nuevo that is allot of fun with it's American style strip club but it's a bit far to go - about 100 pesos by taxi from where I am staying in Retiro.

And the two remaining Triangle Clubs (Cattos is no more) Hook and Ness. Ness is a bore, with the same tiresome girls every night dancing to Salsa but I really like Hooks. I'm there almost every night - I’m a sex addict - and have spent a ton of money on drinks and 15 different girls I have pulled out. Of the 15 about 12 were GFE, with the other 3 just OK service.

Hook has some real stunners, 8's and even a few 10's. I'm not Brad Pitt but I do speak Spanish reasonably well and have done OK with the prices. A few girls won't leave for less than 2,000 pesos but my God they are worth every peso but usually I make an offer of 1,200 pesos for an hour and they accept. Some of the girls who want 2,000 aren't any better than the girls who will settle for 1,200 (100 dollar rate) or 1,500 ($125). The chica drink price is 250 pesos although a few piss me off by asking for champagne and such, which is an extra 50 pesos. If they do that I walk.

The waiters hustle you as soon as you sit down with a girl but that's their job and you can alway tell them to leave you alone until you make or not make a deal with the girl and they back off.. Otherwise it's a great club to monger. The beers are relatively cheap if you stick with Quilmes , 150 pesos and there is no entrance fee and the dancers.

Are amusing, showing off their assets on top of the bar.

Almost all the patrons are Argentine and most come in groups and leave without doing any business, so if you you are a foreigner and come alone the girls see you as a serious monger and some will approach you with that in mind. Most of the foreigners are Chinese that live in BA and they seem to be real players, with money to spend and prime client material for the girls.

PS.

There are a few other boliches near the triangle such as one on T. Marcello Alvear a and Sens but they just don’t compare to Hook.

[Member #4112]

My girl told me once Christina's sex police shut Hippo down the Hippo owners rented out the 2nd floor of Pagana / D'liriao, Hippo Lite if you will. According to her there are now two different clubs sort of. You have to pay an entry fee to go up to the second floor where all the ex-Hippo girls are and as I understand it a similar bar fine to take one of the girls out in additional to the typical Golden Pussy Syndrome of the Hippo girls. First floor is still the same but the girls working it are cheaper and no bar fine.

That's the best information I have on Hippo Lite / Pagana - D'liriao.

Stranger is correct the real hay days of BsAs night clubs is pretty much over for now. Perhaps once the current administration is out the sex police will go away as well. Really miss the days when Black was THE club with wall to wall 8 - 10's and if you did not get there before 01:00 the best ones were gone and you had to suffer with the 8's.

Monger on Dudes!

[Stranger]

It can't be that bad... I need an up to date list by the sounds of it though... So what's left in recoleta?

M.

Seriously, it has declined to 0!

NP is like the guys say, all the ex Black girls has been there and all girls now want a minimum of 2000p, most more. The place is nothing like it was only a few months ago, clip joint sounds about right!

The only place left around the cemetery is NP and second floor on Pagana (or whatever they call it now), where many of the ex Hippo girls hang out, but it sucks, and what used to be called Hella is open, but it is worse than it used to be when it was bad!

Hook has also declined terrible lately.

Toretto has reopened in Palermo, was there a few days ago and would not go back (Uriartes and Salvador), it is called something else but the same doorman and bartenders, but hardly any girls, and they want 200p for drinks to get in..

I have been told that Nuevo Estile is still good, but haven been there for some time.

As a Boliche town BA is definitive over (or on hold), sad really.

Stranger.

[Maxuk]

Checkers has been closed for years. Black is closed. Madahos is closed. Cattos is closed. Hook and Ness are still open, though Hook is not the semi-relaxed place it used to be and seems on the road to New Port status as far as prices and service. Not that you'll have a bad experience every time. BA is not the wonderful boliche experience it once was. I'd recommend what's left of the Triangle.

Periplo is still open as far as I know but doesn't get a lot of press.

Hang out at Exedra and get some advise from mongers when you get in town. Hit up TL for some info as well.

It can't be that bad... I need an up to date list by the sounds of it though... So what's left in Recoleta?

M.

[El Perro]

So where would you go if not Newport? Periplo? Black's I found disappointing last time I was here, admittedly 4 years ago, as was Madahos. When people say upmarket I would have thought a rise in quality and dress sense of the ladies... Alas not for blacks ... I do like the atmosphere of Newport.

Is checkers now closed?

Checkers has been closed for years. Black is closed. Madahos is closed. Cattos is closed. Hook and Ness are still open, though Hook is not the semi-relaxed place it used to be and seems on the road to New Port status as far as prices and service. Not that you'll have a bad experience every time. BA is not the wonderful boliche experience it once was. I'd recommend what's left of the Triangle.

Periplo is still open as far as I know but doesn't get a lot of press.

Hang out at Exedra and get some advice from mongers when you get in town. Hit up TL for some info as well.

[Maxuk]

So where would you go if not Newport? Periplo? Black's I found disappointing last time I was here, admittedly 4 years ago, as was Madahos. When people say upmarket I would have thought a rise in quality and dress sense of the ladies... Alas not for Blacks. I do like the atmosphere of Newport.

Is Checkers now closed?

[Member #3320]

Whenever, I have been there in last 1 year ( last trip about 1 month ago), I have simply been disappointed.

The girls do act as if they are doing you a favor!

They quote obscene prices. Usually refuse to go to yr place. BBBJ is a strict no.DFK could be 50/50.

Who the hell wants to pay 2000 or 3000 pesos + telo for a 30 minute quickie? Some regular posters claim to have had great experiences in recent times? Anything is possible. Who am I to question anyone's experience. But i live in this city, I monger here and I am relaying, what I have personally experienced, first hand, here.

But different strokes for different folks.

I would not suggest this place to any newbie monger unless you got dollars to burn.

Yes, they do try to force the damn drink as soon as you enter the place. Sign of a desperate place.

[BadMan]

As far as the " other poster " claiming he " knows " people who pulled girls out of there " month's " ago for 100 USD. Guess what? I was one of those. But on this latest trip as of 10 days ago. The same girls who were asking 1500 and would go for 1000 are now asking 3000 and they might go down to 2000 and that's for a quickie and they act like they are doing you a favor.

As far as pushing drinks on customers. Desperate times call for desperate measures. I've been there a few times and that's never happened before. Never. You can tell they aren't doing so well. The place is a tourist trap plain and simple. If you don't like my assessment cry me a river.

[ElAlamoPalermo]

Newport hasn't changed their model, but you're way off on those prices bubba. Most of those chicks are asking for 2000 plus now with lots at the 3000 range.

You will find some older chicks that will still boogie for the 1200 range, but they are a minority.

I wouldn't characterize the bar as an overpriced clip joint, I would characterize the majority of providers there as overpriced with a bad work ethic.

I admit my info is about two months out of date because that was when I just got completely disgusted with the place and stopped going.

Newport was and is a hit or miss YMMV place. Back in 2005 I remember some of the girls throwing out ridiculous $200 USD starting prices and the quality in those days was significantly worse than what I have seen the past few months. Several associates of mine have pulled high quality girls out of there within the past few months for $100 USD; obviously YMMV based on negotiating skills, appearance, language ability, etc etc. Obviously, it makes no difference to me whether anyone on this forum likes or goes to Newport, but dismissing the places as a clip joint of zero utility is simply an inaccurate characterization and does nothing to help anybody get laid.

As far as the other poster complaining about the wait staff asking you to buy a drink: why would any cafe/bar/restaurant want any customer to take up space in their establishment if they have no intention of buying anything?

[BadMan]

I was there just recently. The girls weren't very good looking. They all, even the ones that weren't very good looking, were all asking 3000 ala madahos and Black. Not only that, the doorman came in, and pressured me to buy a drink, or leave. There weren't many clients there and it looks like they are really desperately pushing the drinks. Just like a clip joint. Its my personal observation. Tough cookies if some fanboys disagree but I just call it like I see it. An over priced clip joint where the girls, who aren't that good looking, think they can charge Madahos prices even though the place is at best Sodoma. And they look desperate to sell beers. So much so that they practically pushed a cheap beer on me. Didnt have 70% of the beers on the Carta.Quilmes and Stella only. Those that keep singing its praises must be real gluttons for punishment.

The place is a total waste of time and money. Unless you're a tourist or simply can't find any way to get laid other than paying 200-300 Dollars a pop. It's all yours bro.