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05-01-16 14:40 #600
Posts: 707Most Locals also pay for a Telo
If most locals are receiving a 500 pesos haircut in price, they also have to pay 300 pesos in telo charges at Tres Sargentos. Few would risk bringing a hooker over to the place that they live. I have experienced the very rare yelling scene with a girl I brought back to my place. Sometimes they want to put on loud music. The music in the clubs affects the hearing. I realize telo costs should not make a difference in negotiation between you and the girl but it narrows the overall advantage on what you spend for a night out.
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04-30-16 19:42 #599
Posts: 47Originally Posted by DaddyRulz [View Original Post]
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04-30-16 18:19 #598
Posts: 1885This maybe branching outside of the Hook discussion. However, I think that this year ('16), you are going to see more American businessmen in Bs AS. During my 3-4 year stint of doing business in Argentina, it was fairly uncommon for me to meet American businessmen, seeking opportunity. There will be an influx of >$15B of foreign capital coming into Argentina, this year. Foreign guys with money to spend will be following that money.
Unfortunately, while good for my business that isn't good for mongering.
A question for you expats and guys who know chicas, personally. With all the clubs being closed, where are the girls (who would normally be in the clubs) making cash? I doubt many of them want to work harder. I would expect them to go to other venues or online.
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04-30-16 13:51 #597
Posts: 707Scanning the local forums
There is not much mention of Hook anymore but there was one post that illustrates the problem. One guy who I assume was local wrote that he went with Noelia in January 2015. She asked for 1500P and settled for 1000P. So the local guys were getting a 33% haircut. Noelia, if I am remembering right was a dancer with small breasts and incredible ass. I think she danced on the AP House once when I was there.
The same guy in January 2016 was asked for 2500P and it appears the chica would not discount. He wrote he went home, turned on and wanked off to xvideos.
So I remember In November 2014, I was paying $100 for an hour but mostly I would always take out for 2 hours. The girl would charge me $50 for for the second hour. Basically what I would do is pay in dollars for the hour and give her pesos for the second hour. She ended up saving the dollars to buy land.
In October 2015, I basically bought the same girl out of Hook for three weeks. That ran to around $3000 so the cost per orgasm was way above any of these prices we are mentioning. I happened to like this girl and still do. I send her Christmas and Birthday presents.
She told me that business was really slow at Hook in October 2015. She is now out of the business since December 2015 which doesn't mean of course that she might not be back some day. We are planning to meet in Europe this summer if schedules can match up and of course I will pay for it.
As one guy put it on the local forum, the Grand Epoch of nightclubs in Buenos Aires is over. Too bad. The nightclub girls were far hotter in BA than in Colombia in my opinion. However, Sao Paulo is better for nightclubs in my opinion but that is going to be a $200 to $400 night based on October 2015 experiences at Bomboa and Bahamas. I wish I had checked out Scandallo and Gauguin when I was there. Taxi costs in Sao Paulo are also horrendous.
I will probably be back in BA most likely January 2017.
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04-29-16 17:09 #596
Posts: 2808It's the same argument
Originally Posted by Gandolf50 [View Original Post]
2006 Hook chicks were 50 bucks, they stayed for several hours. I don't care what anybody else has to say about that, I know it because I paid it. Everything else here until recently has stayed pretty close to the same dollar price as 2006, we are probably 20% down right now and it sucks but it will adjust. Hook chicks don't charge locals 2500-3500 pesos, they charge that for guys with accents. A year ago the time v money guys were saying that "100 dollars is the standard price worldwide for club pussy" next they will be saying that 200 is. It's because they only do it part time and they just don't care. There was guy staying at the house one time, a guy I considered a friend. I told him about Mia's place, I told him, they will ask you for 100 bucks but you can get out for 50 or 60. His response? "I'll just pay them whatever they ask, I can't be bothered to say anything." When I told him he would be making it more difficult for those of us who live here? "I'm only here for a week, not my problem.".
It was the last hookup I gave out.
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04-29-16 16:43 #595
Posts: 1885BBM, good points. I made my first trip to Bs As in July '07, I can remember the exchange rate was AR$3.09/USD. A half hour at 1707 Ste Fe was AR$70 (~US$23) and an hour was AR$120 (US$39). Propina was AR$20 (~US$6) for BBBJ. I can also remember senior AP'ers complaining that they had raised their prices....
So, for US$30, you could get a romp and a bbbj with a decent chica.
Shoot, it's had to get out of the newsstand at the airport spending less than that.
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04-27-16 20:36 #594
Posts: 911Originally Posted by BigBossMan [View Original Post]
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04-27-16 19:02 #593
Posts: 707I am going to get slammed but what the hell.
There are $125 to $150 places throughout Central and South America.
I paid that in Jaco, Bomboa in Sao Paulo, La Isla in Medellin, and La Piscina Norte in Bogota in the past seven months.
In all those towns except Jaco, the clinicas and casas are better options. In Jaco the standard ask price is $100 but some girls will go for $80. The chica that got $150 from me at Cocal was the best looking in the place in my opinion. When I countered with $100, she would just say that her amiga will go for $100. On my last night, I caved.
Madahos and Hippo's dancers were asking 1200 to 1500 pesos last time I was there in November 2012 when we were getting 6.10 P to $1. I remember because it was the night Toyman paid off Esten for the Obama election bet.
The sad part of it was that Hook was basically $100 an hour between 12 and 2 AM for the dancers before Hippo closed and there were always 6 or 8 dancers in the house worth taking out. Closer to closing time, I know guys who negotiated down. Sideline girls at Hook were cheaper.
Buenos Aires was really cheap between 2001 and 2006 after the currency crisis of 2001-2002. But in those days, the streets were dirty, pensioners were begging for money on street corners and the restaurants scene was less established. Buenos Aires is a better place to visit today than in 2003 despite the rise in cost of nightclub girls.
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04-27-16 13:54 #592
Posts: 3510The best example of the inverse price/quality relationship was the late, lamented Fray Santa Marķa Justo de Oro 2280. God, I loved that place. Sob. Q.E.P.D.
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04-27-16 13:01 #591
Posts: 1099Originally Posted by DaddyRulz [View Original Post]
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04-27-16 12:04 #590
Posts: 2808Yup
Originally Posted by SlyOne [View Original Post]
Brother dickhead was right when he said there is an inverse relationship between price and service. There have been a few exceptions to that in my life here but very few.
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04-27-16 11:10 #589
Posts: 911Originally Posted by SlyOne [View Original Post]
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04-27-16 09:54 #588
Posts: 47Exactly my point
Originally Posted by Gandolf50 [View Original Post]
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04-27-16 07:27 #587
Posts: 911Originally Posted by SlyOne [View Original Post]
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04-27-16 01:47 #586
Posts: 47One in every crowd
Originally Posted by DaddyRulz [View Original Post]
Overpaying fucks it up for the locals....
If you pay more that $USD 100 TLN for a girl with a smile and everything you could imagine you are an over paying idiot.
This is Argentina not Las Vegas..
The normal Arg wage is about $4000 pesos per month so the locals aren't paying anything like that ....FOR SURE.
Come in sucker.....