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12-11-07 04:02 #12
Posts: 108Nice subject!
But some stupid posts. Makes me laugh to think how long one writes to make himself believe what he is saying. I disagree because pimp 123 doesn't tell the truth. It is as simple as that.
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12-11-07 02:21 #11
Posts: 547Also, Mr. Felliatrix
I will tell you why I don't agree with your post.
-You Wrote: - "find their 'voluntary exchange zone'"
And I don't agree because:
Assuming it's a married couple, or a stable couple there is not "voluntary exchange zone", there is a voluntary attachment and this inlcudes sex beween the parties, and the sex includes blow jobs, free of charge. And when I say "free of charge" I mean free of any kind of charge, including but not limited to favor exchanges and negotiations. In case the woman has any kind of aversion to certain practices, as well as if the man has, that's another thing, and you will find hard to convince her to go ahead with it, and, if she never, you should respect it, and love her 'as is' and without conditions, and never force it, nor negotiate it, but I assume this is a normal relationship a normal man and a normal woman.
-You Wrote: - "Also, we assume that the guy is freely giving cunnilingus if she desires it, and otherwise attending to her orgasms needs. If not, he can't expect her to reciprocate. A good rule is: The guy leads, the lady reciprocates IF she wants."
And I don't agree because:
For God in the heaven: This thing it's not about HER attention needs, because that must be proccessed as another completely different issue. You wrote simply about the Blow Job, not the whole sexual relationship, so, if her needs are not fullfilled it's irrelevant for this matter.
In addition, the whole statement it's confusing and bad leaded, since she may have no orgasms at all, but being happy by pleasing her partner. Female orgasm it's also irrelevant when we are reffering to the simple matter of a Blow Job. Blow Job means she kisses, or she sucks or she deepthroat on her husband's cock. She would not deny a kiss on your lips because she has no orgasms. Or if she does, it's for another different topic.
Also, that thing about, the lady reciprocates IF she wants it's at least ultra-feminist. What is that about? There should be no difference about who leads, the horniest one at that time will lead and should turn-on his / her partner to enjoy.
-You Wrote: - Another good rule is: Don't try to coax her to give you a blow job by making her watch porn. Finally, under no circumstances try to indicate you want a blowjob during sex by such "subtle" moves as pushing on her head. You will only succeed if you establish where you are headed BEFORE you start, and stick to your agreement.
And I don't agree because:
I would avoid investing in that gold:
Pushing her head down it's one of the things women likes more when in a stable relationship, of course you won't do it in your first date, or without knowing her (she might feel threatened) but she IS a woman, and she needs to be treated as a woman she is. By pushing her head you are expressing "I love you and I love to have you close to me you love my hard cock, isn't it?" So, she accepts she is the woman, and she demonstrates it by doing it and not forcing upside down, sometimes she could resist it, as a game, but if she loves you, she loves it, she feels like a real woman with a REAL man.
Otherwise, what do I should expect later, being fucked by my wife with a strap-on dildo?
-You Wrote: - "and stick to your agreement."
And I don't agree because:
What agreement? There ain't no agreement, c'Mon, the agreement it's to enjoy together and it's tacit. Do you make an agreement each time to take a cab? If in the road something it's different than you expect you let know about that and you keep going. Otherwise you cut and find another one.
-You Wrote: - "Establish the limits on which parts of his penis she will stimulate and exactly how the stimulation will take place."
And I don't agree because:
The limits will be stablished by the lenght of her throat. Automatically.
And Finally but not less important:
-You Wrote: - "Suppose your this guy: You're 40-something, slightly balding and have a little more around the middle than you used to. You're happily married for the last 26 years to a 47-year old kindergarten teacher, and you have decent sex once in a while, but not as much as you used to. You'd like her to suck your dick once in a while, but don't know how to broach the subject, or have tried and she refused. "
-You Wrote: -"Here are your options:"
1."Go to the local **** hut and troll for a blowjob at the bar."
2."Next time your on the couch, just pull your dick out, point at it the wife, and snap your fingers, and say "suck it, *****!"
3."Try my advice."
Fuck and twice fuck! I say. My option would be take a gun and kill myself! I don't want a blow job from a fucking 47 years old kindergarden teacher with
her saggy tits pointing to the floor. What is that?
I would be already six feet under 26 years ago because of the 'decent sex once in a while'.
Well, that's me, but anyway, there are lots and lots of options if for anything you passed an horrible situation like that.
One of the options it's take the first flight to Buenos Aires and change your life forever.
Have you ever considered that women are NOT a guy with a vagina?
Woman it's a completely different human being, and this strange concept of negotating (I guess, because of this that you also negotiate sex frecquency, anal sex, etc.
It's a big, it's a HUGE confusion you Mr. Felliatrix you have, one should treat everyone with respect first of all, and when doing business BUT ONLY when doing business, you may treat a woman as a man, otherwise, treat the woman as a woman and the man as a man, and the horse as a horse.
And now, finally finally:
Why the "Voluntary exchange zone" resambles a condom?
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12-10-07 22:32 #10
Posts: 547We never negociate
Wow!
That's sooo funny.
Well, I'm sorry for my typo mistakes. I have many things to do and I'm not a native english writer, no matter what language I write. However, I don't feel shame about it, especially when I want to express a valuable idea.
It's funny this guy treats the Blow Job as a negotiation matter. May be I'm not more intelligent than him. I'm just a hard worker and I strongly believe that having skills to see what is true and what is not gives more value than a sophisticated and extra intelligence to over analyze simple things. So, I have developed my skills to see, see deep what the reality is. No matter how intelligent you are, if you are not capable to distinguish the reality of the things, your intelligence will have just a limited value.
So, the reality and the truth is that it's not neccesary negoCiate a blow job when you are into a relationship. If the woman loves you she must love your dick too, because your dick is part of you.
Not seeing the reality it's considering your dick as an external part of you.
Unfortunally, the society where we live considers sex as something ugly and disgusting, but if you see deep inside you'll see that is something wonderful and beautiful, so we have found another reality.
This guy's advise makes nothing but insisting that Your wife (as he explained) is making you a favor for stimulating the part of your body that gets more easely excited. The center of a sexual intercourse, and she is making you a FAVOR, and you should ask the 'minimum' and exchange that FAVOR for who knows what?
Ok, I understand your wife may be ignorant, and she is not aware that your dick is part of your body, and she is not aware that sex is a beautiful thing to do, and she promessed to LOVE the whole YOU, INCLUDING your dick. The solution it's not negoCiating but enlight her, and make her a favor would be make her to see what is true and what is not.
I think I (and anyone) can explain this very easely and faster than the time I took to write this.
By the way, women who are aware of the truth they learn how to do it and they enjoy doing a blow job. They know they are stimulating you, and they enjoy that, and even more if there is love in the couple.
Making love, or if you want "copulating" it's about the "couple", and this is what the guy does not understand. Masturbating it's about one person, and sometimes you can masturbate with a woman, fucking her, and even masturbate together while fucking because one or two are not enjoying the session. That's what many complain about in this forum and they name it "a bad session".
In addition, the woman enjoys differently than the man, of course, depending on the individual, some times her satisfaction it's to make you happy and play her female role, and that's about to please her partner.
Women should be educated and NOT negotiated.
So when I want a blow job, a good one, I have three options:
1- I get in the Internet and I don't pay attention to the girls bodies, just her lips and mouth, then I call and I'll have a different experience to add to my list.
2- I call my lover and I tell her I need an urgent blow job, and she gets horny.
3- I just go to the kitchen and I put any kind of dangerous tool away (knives, etc) Then I point my girl's head to my dick and I get relaxed (I don't have to say any kind of word, but If I say the magic words it's even more interesting, the problem is she will ask me why I'm so horny, and she will want to get fucked the whole night and I have work to do)
These three options are a seriuos dilema so I need to negotiate to myself which one is better. The new experience it's risky but exciting, my lover's blowjobs are the very best because she is a fucking expert and she do it very delicately at the begining but she learned (the biitch) how to deepthroat all of it without doing any noise (by the way, she also swallows the jizz as if she were drinking cocacola, but that's another story) she didn't at the begining but I have teached her how to do it, it takes a couple of sessions, and please, don't get me wrong, it's not neccesary to suck a dick yourself to teach something like this. You just tell her how to do it, and the kitchen option it's also great, because there is so much love but I prefer to keep it for myself and not telling everyone why.
By the way, women are clear to distinguish a good "suck it biitch" and a bad one, you should either avoid to say the magic words when she is not horney, OR, say that in a good manner to turn her on rather than saying it in an offensive way.
I have learned how to say "biitch" even to the working girls, after years of tryouts, now I can tell her biitch while fucking, before, and even after, and that's a turn on for both of us.
However it's not neccessary, and you can call her sweety, 'my love', 'my baby' and other things like 'my sweet love', 'my biitch love', and a great number of possible combinations.
Finally, girls are like fine horses, you have to treat them good, gently, but don't let them become lazy. They are created to ride.
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12-10-07 18:34 #9
Posts: 2599I'm impressed, obviously there are others that read the forum. Please read the following link and compare it to the posts below.
http://www.fellatrix.blogspot.com/
Seem's Daddy Rulz, MCSE and Helpmann have impressed the webmaster.
Exon
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12-10-07 13:22 #8
Posts: 2599Originally Posted by MCSE
There's a ring of professional Argentine escorts that work the USA and London, 25 to 30 of them or more. They have apartments in Miami, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and Las Vegas. Its all very quite, all by word of mouth, with no pictures exchanged.
All of them are high class, expensive, charging high end US pricing, speak excellent English and have Visa's to come and go as they and their "Clients" want. Yes their are guy's that fly them in and out the USA just to Fuck them and escort them around. They net work for each other, I get calls from them on a regular basis. Any of them you'd be proud to be seen with anywhere.
How I got envolved was my very first trip I met one of them in Recoleta and she had me in bed before the devaluation for $250 USD, I was a "Newbie".
This girl "Celeste" whom called me is going to want $300 US dollars or more too fuck me in Argentina. I plan on meeting her for lunch or coffee, and if she's "Hot", and the chemistry is good, I'll offer $300 peso's. The high end price for Argentina. If she excepts and we have a good time together, I'll have a resonable starting price for future negoications here in Sex Prison.
So basicly if my motives work out, I'll have a "Friend" that will Fuck me, provide good service, here in the USA at a resonable price, say in the neighborhood of $200 USD.
These Argentine women, not just Celeste and her group, but all of them are true professionals at their trade and they continue to amaze me.
Exon
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12-09-07 21:39 #7
Posts: 547Originally Posted by Exon123
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12-09-07 19:26 #6
Posts: 2599I'm sitting in my office here in Sex Prison and the phone just rang.
A girl saying she is 32 just called me from Buenos Aires and was trying to make an appointment to Fuck Me. She normally works out of Las Vegas.
Her name is Celeste and her cell number is 15-4187-9800
Would someone in Buenos Aires call her and check her out and get back to us.
Her English is perfect & she has a Visa.
Thanks in Advance.
Exon
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12-09-07 18:32 #5
Posts: 547Negotiating a blow job?
LOL! That's simply not negotiable, man, all of that text about "how to negotiate a blowjob" it's plain silly.
Let me tell you how I negotiate a blowjob:
I just show my dick and she must open her mouth and swallow all of it, and the negotiation process is over.
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12-09-07 17:33 #4
Posts: 754"20 pesos why te chupo la pija!"
Many nights of relieve have come from there allowing me to drive back to a club and REALLY negotiate a "toda la noche" without the little guy thinking for me.
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12-09-07 17:28 #3
Posts: 31You Should See My Opinions On Anal Sex.
Originally Posted by Daddy Rulz
Not only should a latina (pro or non-pro) do what I want in bed, but she should do it with a big smile. In bed, I am not some kind of dictator (far from it) but some things I just don't feel the need to ask for in bed, they're expected (I. E. BBBJCIM) and I just do it.
Nevertheless, not all girls are created equal and some swallow and some don't. I can live with that; however, a blow job should always be just a head tug away.
-Helpmann
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12-09-07 16:24 #2
Posts: 2808Sorry Dad
Originally Posted by Exon123
I'm sure there is a latina somewhere that isn't sucking her mans dick, anything is possible. Though every single one I've ever known has been proud of her oral skills. It's the difference in the culture, down there they know, without doubt, if they're not giving their man what he's looking for he will be getting it elsewhere.
Reciprocity is a good thing with partners, I'll never argue that, but this chick is saying, "the man leads and the woman follows if she wants to." Fuck that, I want her wanted to suck my dick, I love munching the carpet and will do it for hours if it's clean tasty and well groomed, but then she follows "if she wants to" fuck that.
Don't breed with these women here, let Darwinism take care of them. Boycot, Boycott, Boycott!
Hope this doesn't get me kicked out of the will.
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12-09-07 16:15 #1
Posts: 2599Negotiating a Blowjob
Many of Us can learn from this.
Exon.
http://www.fellatrix.blogspot.com/