2012 Elections in the USA

[Esten]

You are so far from understanding the reality of an entrepreneurial mindset that any attempts at honest dialogue wold be a frivolous waste of time.

That's it. Go ahead and retreat back to your warm little cocoon of delusion. Where business and entrepreneurship are akin to rocket science, understood only by a few. And where one can quickly ascertain another person's lack of understanding of such things without knowing anything about them. Never mind explaining how so many liberals and democrats have started and run successful businesses. It must have just been a fluke, or maybe a conservative friend helped them. Go ahead. I understand. You're not used to having your programming challenged. It's easier to just dismiss and avoid.

[Jackson]

In fact, Liberals believe in the same ideals of individual effort, opportunity and rewarding success as Conservatives do.

ROTFLMAO!

People, please don't listen to what liberals say, just watch what they do.

For example, they will claim that they believe in "rewarding success", when in fact what they actually believe in is redistributing success.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Rev BS]

It's George Bush's fault!

Even if Obama loses the election, history will be kinder to Obama than Bush. But of course, most historians and writers are liberals.

[Texas Tornado]

This provides an excellent example of the first type of ODS response:

In this case, the loose basis in reality is that some people do believe in the moral and economic value of certain forms of welfare. But that's where the connection with reality ends. Few if any people believe that welfare payments cure all evils, or that welfare should be the main or singular focus of government. However, right wing programming and messaging has instilled in many the idea that this is a widespread view among Liberals. In fact, Liberals believe in the same ideals of individual effort, opportunity and rewarding success as Conservatives do. Some Conservatives recognize this, and understand their differences with Liberals are not so great. Those with ODS however, typically weak-minded shallow thinkers, merely recycle the programming and messaging they have succumbed to. They take comfort in the delusion that they alone are the vanguards of American ideals.

You are so far from understanding the reality of an entrepreneurial mindset that any attempts at honest dialogue wold be a frivolous waste of time.

[Chezz]

Here is a fact. 65,000,000 are on some form of government assistance.

And I'm guessing that half of those 65mil are republicans. Just TRY taking away THEIR welfare or unemployment check, not to mention their Lark Scooter reimbursement check. Fucking hell to pay, you better believe it.

[Esten]

Not to be confused with its sister ailment, OIOS: Obama Is Our Savior syndrome which tends to occur in Americans who believe that welfare payments cure all evils

This provides an excellent example of the first type of ODS response:

(i) The facts are countered by an argument that is loosely based in reality, usually derived from repeated exposure to programming and messaging that creates an illusion of truth.

In this case, the loose basis in reality is that some people do believe in the moral and economic value of certain forms of welfare. But that's where the connection with reality ends. Few if any people believe that welfare payments cure all evils, or that welfare should be the main or singular focus of government. However, right wing programming and messaging has instilled in many the idea that this is a widespread view among Liberals. In fact, Liberals believe in the same ideals of individual effort, opportunity and rewarding success as Conservatives do. Some Conservatives recognize this, and understand their differences with Liberals are not so great. Those with ODS however, typically weak-minded shallow thinkers, merely recycle the programming and messaging they have succumbed to. They take comfort in the delusion that they alone are the vanguards of American ideals.

[Jackson]

Here is a fact. 65,000,000 are on some form of government assistance.

It's George Bush's fault!

[Runner Up]

Sad but true, millions of Americans suffer from a disorder called ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome). Including some of our very own posters here.

ODS is characterized by a fundamental belief that Barack Obama is the cause of all problems in the USA. That Obama can do no right, and that everything he does is wrong.

Facts do not stand in the way of a person suffering from ODS. When presented with facts, one of two responses is generally elicited:

(I) The facts are countered by an argument that is loosely based in reality, usually derived from repeated exposure to programming and messaging that creates an illusion of truth.

(ii) The facts are willfully ignored as the person changes the topic back to their anti-Obama narrative, fueled by uncontrollable firing of diseased synaptic connections.

It is a very difficult disorder to cure. What we do know is ODS is more common in people from the South, people with less education, people who watch more than 1 hour of Fox News a day, and older white men. Falling in just 2 of these categories puts the odds of having or developing ODS at 70.

Another typical liberal running his mouth with 0 factual statements. Here is a fact. 65,000,000 are on some form of government assistance.

[Texas Tornado]

Sad but true, millions of Americans suffer from a disorder called ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome). Including some of our very own posters here.

ODS is characterized by a fundamental belief that Barack Obama is the cause of all problems in the USA. That Obama can do no right, and that everything he does is wrong.

Facts do not stand in the way of a person suffering from ODS. When presented with facts, one of two responses is generally elicited:

(I) The facts are countered by an argument that is loosely based in reality, usually derived from repeated exposure to programming and messaging that creates an illusion of truth.

(ii) The facts are willfully ignored as the person changes the topic back to their anti-Obama narrative, fueled by uncontrollable firing of diseased synaptic connections.

It is a very difficult disorder to cure. What we do know is ODS is more common in people from the South, people with less education, people who watch more than 1 hour of Fox News a day, and older white men. Falling in just 2 of these categories puts the odds of having or developing ODS at 70.

Not to be confused with its sister ailment, OIOS: Obama Is Our Savior syndrome which tends to occur in Americans who believe that welfare payments cure all evils, that all wealth should be evenly (read: fairly) distributed and tends to occur in those who have never owned a business or been responsible for making payroll.

[Esten]

Sad but true, millions of Americans suffer from a disorder called ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome). Including some of our very own posters here.

ODS is characterized by a fundamental belief that Barack Obama is the cause of all problems in the USA. That Obama can do no right, and that everything he does is wrong.

Facts do not stand in the way of a person suffering from ODS. When presented with facts, one of two responses is generally elicited:
(i) The facts are countered by an argument that is loosely based in reality, usually derived from repeated exposure to programming and messaging that creates an illusion of truth.
(ii) The facts are willfully ignored as the person changes the topic back to their anti-Obama narrative, fueled by uncontrollable firing of diseased synaptic connections.

It is a very difficult disorder to cure. What we do know is ODS is more common in people from the South, people with less education, people who watch more than 1 hour of Fox News a day, and older white men. Falling in just 2 of these categories puts the odds of having or developing ODS at 70%.

[David_33]

I think that if the election is between the Mormon Willard and Obama, that Obama will win. This is an evaluation such as I made for the South Carolina Republican Primary, and has nothing to do with my political views, just the way I think that things will go. If the Republicans get it together and nominate someone other than Romney they could still beat Obama, but if they stick with Romney they will lose.

[Moveon]

So what.

Who's Snooky going to endorse?

[Rev BS]

I have been on a losing streak with my soccer and football picks. El Alamo could easily be on the money again, but I have nothing to lose (except $100). He does not have to go in alone, I think he could easily get a consortium within AP to back this wager.

[Punter 127]

Circa 2008.

This election may be decided by events on the day of the election or the day before the election.

In 1980 the race between Carter and Reagan was considered to be a dead heat. But on the morning of the election the news was filled with something the Iranians were doing with the American hostages (street demonstration or something like that) It was the only newsworthy topic that day.

Reagan won by a landslide because the voting public realized, seeing the carnage on the news reports, that Carter was incapable of handling foreign affairs.

In 2004 there was the last minute Bin Ladin (sp? Tape.

This year, a meltdown in the stock markets on the day before the election or the day of the election, could seal this for Obama. If not, this might be a closer election than some think.

2012.

I am not a genius, but the 2012 presidential election is a foregone conclusion. Basically we have Obama who has demonstrated his total lack of knowledge of free market economies to such an extent that he has eclispsed the incompetence of Jimmy Carter. Then we have Romney, who is being criticized for his understanding of free market economies and his track record of success in free market economies.

Criticizing Romney for his business success and rewarding Obama for his economic incompetence would be similar to benching Tom Brady or Eli Manning because they win ballgames and playing a blind quadaplegic I. E. Obama because he will never, repeat never, win a ballgame.

Read it and weep. It is a done deal.

Perhaps not a genius but a Political Guru, he was right before.

[Rev BS]

I am not a genius, but the 2012 presidential election is a foregone conclusion. Basically we have Obama who has demonstrated his total lack of knowledge of free market economies to such an extent that he has eclispsed the incompetence of Jimmy Carter. Then we have Romney, who is being criticized for his understanding of free market economies and his track record of success in free market economies.

Criticizing Romney for his business success and rewarding Obama for his economic incompetence would be similar to benching Tom Brady or Eli Manning because they win ballgames and playing a blind quadaplegic I. E. Obama because he will never, repeat never, win a ballgame.

Read it and weep. It is a done deal.

I take you are willing to give 10-1 odds. I will bet $100.