American Politics during the Obama Presidency

[Silver Star]

That's the 2nd thing in 6 years that Obama has done right.

Also good was at the beginning of the administration there was a rescue of Americans being held by pirates, snipers took the pirates out by sniper fire...Great job!

[Jackson]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3837034.html

That's the 2nd thing in 6 years that Obama has done right.

[Punter 127]

Syria?

If it wasn't for the crickets the silence of the leftwing members of this forum would be deafening.

Where are you Blackshirt and WT69?

[Daddy Rulz]

There's an easy solution for that problem: Just release everyone who is doing time for possession of recreational substances.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3837034.html

[Punter 127]

In Stunning Move UK Parliament Rejects Syria Military Strike, Obama "Willing To Go It Alone"

"Moments ago the UK House of Commons, in a razor thin vote, rejected the Cameron proposal for military action in Syria with a vote 285 to 272. Cameron promptly said he would respect the will of the House of Commons and UK Defense Secretary Phillip Hammond confirmed there would be no UK military intervention in Syria."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...ng-go-it-alone

Looks like the Brits figured it out.

[Jackson]

Most sensible people with a modicum of common sense know that our prisons and jails would be filled to overflowing if the anti gun laws already on the books were enforced.

Tres3.

There's an easy solution for that problem: Just release everyone who is doing time for possession of recreational substances.

[Member #4112]

Well I see our ball-less leader is still dithering over Syria.

If Obamanation was going to do anything he should have launched the air strikes three years ago when this was first cranking up and before all the radical's moved into the theater. Back when it was just the Syrians involved in the civil war.

No couldn't do that, instead the Obamanation amid all the hand wringing and platitudes about civilians had to shoot off his month about "red lines" and chemical weapons and now he feels like he has to do something a year after it was confirmed Sarin was used by the regime.

At this point our enemies are killing each other, Hezbollah vs Al Qaeda, so how is this a bad thing?

Tossing a few cruise missiles is not going to change the equation and I think everyone has had enough boots on the ground in the Middle East for a while unless there was a direct threat to the US and we intended to keep what we kill for a change.

If the Obamanation feels he needs to do something then I have two words for him – tactical nuke. While he is at it, since Iran want's nukes so bad why not drop off a few we are about to decommission and save the money we would spend to dismantle them? That would sure make Iran a quiet corner of the Middle East for about 5,000 years.

[Tres3]

I'm good. But it might be past your bedtime, old man. You're confused. In the Zimmerman thread a few days ago you claimed NY was not enforcing gun laws. I asked you to share some data on this. You did not.

Most sensible people with a modicum of common sense know that our prisons and jails would be filled to overflowing if the anti gun laws already on the books were enforced.

Tres3.

[Punter 127]

Sir If I may just correct you...I'm English.

I stand corrected. LOL.

[Flexible Horn]

This from a Brit

Sir If I may just correct you...I'm English.

[Punter 127]

We should stand down in Syria.

"Remember, we went into Iraq based on the information we were getting about weapons of mass destruction. We better be sure who's using these weapons in Syria. Is it Assad or is it the rebels who, in fact, would love to have America come in? Remember, the rebels were being beaten back by Bashar Assad. So what reason would he have to use chemical weapons?

The United States should also be skeptical of Russian President Vladimir Putin and his involvement in the Syrian conflict.

"Putin is the puppet master in all of this and, so far, he's outdone the president of the United States at every turn.

I condemn all use of chemical weapons and the situation in Syria is very upsetting, but I just don't see how it's an American interest. We should not get involved militarily. We are not the world police and what will be gained by an attack by the US, it may well make things worse. I'm one of the first to make the call to arms if threatened but I don't see the threat to the USA, and this is just not our fight. We should stand down. IMHO.

[Punter 127]

Reid can't bring a new bill to the floor, without overcoming a virtually-gauranteed Republican filibuster. You remember the big flap over this last time. Most Republican senators voted against even allowing a debate and vote. So, any pretense that Republicans were ever serious about reducing gun violence is largely false. No doubt, Reid knows the calculus, and believes that for some Republican senators, a vote on background checks is going to be less politically risky than a vote to bring gun control legislation to the floor a second time.

Sounds more like a kid who says “I'll just take my ball and go home”, and wait for the next crisis.

Certainly, expanded background checks won't put a complete stop to guns getting into the wrong hands. But the data shows it is an effective measure to reduce the occurence. And BTW, opening NICS to individual sellers on a voluntary basis has questionable merit, because the data also shows that most private sellers will agree to sell guns to people who say they can't pass a background check. The background check has to be mandatory, and enforced. [snip]

I listed legitimate concerns and ask legitimate questions, you responded with gibberish and failed to answer how the checks would be enforced without a registry. The data from media matters is hardly scientific research and is therefore irrelevant. But if those people really did agree to sell a gun to someone who couldn't pass a background check they would be in violation of current law if they made said sale.

BTW Gun Prosecutions Down 40% During Obama Presidency
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...His-Presidency

[Esten]

There are over twelve MILLION people living in the New York metropolitan area and you are trying to prove a point by citing a single undercover sting operation involving 125 individuals that was reported by a questionable media source. Give us all a break and just go away. BTW if you read the Zimmerman thread carefully, you will find that I never purported to give factual information. All I said, many times over, was that Zimmerman was stupid, and I will stand by that opinion.

It is past your bedtime little boy. You should stop trying to play with grown ups.

I'm good. But it might be past your bedtime, old man. You're confused. In the Zimmerman thread a few days ago you claimed NY was not enforcing gun laws. I asked you to share some data on this. You did not.

[Esten]

I would love to but I don't think I could play that much golf, take that many vacations (even if it is on the tax payer's dime), or play small ball to the point the USA became the laughing stock of the civilized world.

Another witty comment from a conservative living in the Fox News bubble, repeating what he hears in the right wing media, where the laughing stock line is now making the rounds. Like Tres, don't expect Doppel to post any real data to back up his claim. Donald Trump was using that line recently too. BTW, Trump is now being sued by the NY AG for fraud.

[Punter 127]

I feel in time Mr Obama will go down as one of Americas greatest presidents surely making the top 3 list.

This from a Brit who claims England gave America independence out of the kindness of their heart, and England bailed the United States out in WW II.

Now Esten thanked him, you got to love that. Birds of a feather and all that I guess. ROFLMAO.

I would say Obama has leadership abilities similar to those of the Pied Piper, he has led millions of Americans down the garden path.