American Politics during the Obama Presidency

[Rocky2]

So do you think Trump avoided military service because he had bad feet, or because he is a rich cocksucker? I don't criticize anyone for doing whatever to get out of military service. They ended the draft when I was 17 but I sure as fuck would not have gone to Vietnam. I would have first sought CO status and then gone to Canada or to prison instead. Cocksuckers like Bush and Trump don't have to go through the CO process or expatriate themselves because their rich daddies take care of all that.

Where is Leon Czolgosz when we need him?

Trump is not a cocksucker........he is a pussy licker and from what I have seen, quite nice ones at that.

[Dickhead]

So do you think Trump avoided military service because he had bad feet, or because he is a rich cocksucker? I don't criticize anyone for doing whatever to get out of military service. They ended the draft when I was 17 but I sure as fuck would not have gone to Vietnam. I would have first sought CO status and then gone to Canada or to prison instead. Cocksuckers like Bush and Trump don't have to go through the CO process or expatriate themselves because their rich daddies take care of all that.

Where is Leon Czolgosz when we need him?

[Big Boss Man]

If you believe that, I have some oceanfront property in Iowa for sale.

I was at a fairly well-known university during the Vietnam War. Bad-feet was a known way to get out of the draft and I knew one guy who used it to avoid being drafted. He is currently the president of a major environmental organization. I said to some of my friends, only half-joking, " Maybe the guys who used the foot scam are smarter than the rest of us. They know how to work the system. That's why they are all presidents now.".

At the same time, I was not volunteering to go to Vietnam either. I am from the first class that was subject to the draft lottery. I was fairly relieved to get a draft number 196. I immediately dropped out of school after receiving the number (over 100 was deemed to be safe) only to return a couple of years later.

The guys that I knew personally who received low numbers immediately enlisted in Air Force or Navy. Nobody that I know of who graduated from my high school in 1970 volunteered for the infantry.

We recently created a Vietnam Memorial at my high school which I contributed funds to build. The eight guys that died in Vietnam from my high school all graduated between 1965 and 1967. 1968 was McNamara's million I think? One of the guys who died was the student body president and another was Honor Society student. So not everyone dodged it in the 1960s.

The guy I know now who fought in the jungles says he does not really give a damn anymore. The one he remembers is Joe Namath who could play pro football but had bad knees so he could not get drafted.

California being a high tax state treats Vets fairly well. The son of a friend gets full ride at UC with a combination of state scholarships and the GI bill. He has had full medical care since he was discharged. He is about to graduate and there are a get a vet a job programs. LA County has a hire 100,000 vets program lead by the mayor of Los Angeles Garcetti who is also an officer in the Reserves. Several companies have recruiters who specialize in hiring vets.

If Trump has a good idea on how to make it better, maybe he should be more specific in his speeches. I think in California we would at least consider it. The stump speeches I have watched he just says, " We are going to take care of our Vets." In one debate I watched, maybe New Hampshire or South Carolina, I think he said there is a lot of waste and fraud in the current Vet programs. Maybe Trump can manage what we have better.

California is going to vote Clinton. If you live in Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Colorado, Florida and Virginia, I think you are deciding for the rest of us.

[Dickhead]

Trump ... has had bad feet all his life which kept him from being drafted in the 1960s.

If you believe that, I have some oceanfront property in Iowa for sale.

[Big Boss Man]

I was unfriended yesterday for this incident. One of my friends wrote "If Trump becomes President, we'll have the best looking First Family since......EVER...!!!!" I wrote "Kennedy and Jackie?" The guy unfriended me. I guess he felt it was not worthy of discussion.

I realize the definition of attractive changes over time. But Jackie was a trophy wife just like Melania. Jackie was 31 when Kennedy took office whereas Melania is 45.

Trump facially I would say is good looking but he has a funny walk. I don't find him all that graceful. He has had bad feet all his life which kept him from being drafted in the 1960s.

Kennedy was more virile than Trump at this stage in his life when he became President. More athletic certainly which was partly propaganda because he had a bad back. But if you were a kid in 1960s, you probably had read PT-109.

Kennedy had at least two known mistresses during his Presidency - Exner and Monroe.

http://edgardaily.com/en/life/2014/j...the-mafia-8673

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqolSvoWNck

You can see the stiffness in Kennedy's back in the Monroe video.

Ah well, it is no big deal. We were just in the same high class class and did not know each well anyway. I think it is a little over sensitive though.

[Rev BS]

Anyhow, I am not a Trump fanboy (but I will take him over Hillary), but I have been saying this, for months, barring some catastrophic change, Trump will win in an epic landslide against Hillary in the general election.

Especially after 2012.

[Wild Walleye]

I don't know from whence the rest of you guys are watching this unfold, but I'm in a very blue part of a blue state and I can tell you two things, 1) lots people from all walks of life love Trump (seriously), including liberal bastions such as the semi-lib house wife to the Latam immigrants to the African American community, and 2) everybody hates Hillary, except for the died-in-the-wool, hardcore party loyalists. If it weren't for the super delegates, Hillary and bernie would be in a very tight match. As it stands, I expect Bernie to crush her in a few of the remaining contests which, should further embolden his supporters. The thing is that he hasn't really tried to fight her head on. He has passed on the emails issue, the failure as Secretary of State issue and the vast corruption/criminal enterprise of Clinton Inc. After all, he's just supposed to be in the race as a straw man so that she didn't run unopposed. So, think about this, Hillary is running against an avowed socialist straw man, taking 90% of the super delegates and she is barely winning. She's brought in millions of fewer votes than she had at this point in 2008.

Anyhow, I am not a Trump fanboy (but I will take him over Hillary), but I have been saying this, for months, barring some catastrophic change, Trump will win in an epic landslide against Hillary in the general election.

The biggest challenge that Trump would face would be Hillary/Bernie ticket, because it would keep the Bernie supporters from voting Trump or staying home. However, two far left candidates, in a country that has suffered mightily (on the personal, individual level with record real unemployment, etc) will not do well in the general. However, this latter point (i.e. a reconciliation between Hillary and Bernie) was always part of the deal. That is why (IMO) Bernie hasn't really tried to knock her out. When the time comes, he will fall in line with her, pledge his undying loyalty to her and he will be handsomely rewarded (at taxpayer expense, of course) for his obedience.

[WorldTravel69]

Paul Ryan and Donald Trump's meeting on Thursday was a lesson.

Donald Trump does not understand Article One of the Constitution. Paul Ryan had to explain it to him.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word

Clink on the one with Ryan, "Speaker Ryan gives Trump a civics lesson". It is funny and great.

[Big Boss Man]

I love it.

He said that he is not accepting any money from the billionaires, that he is using his own money.

Now that he is the only one left to fight Hillary, the way I hear it, is that he will need the billionaires money so he can get his money back.

He has only loaned money to his campaign.

I think that the Democrats would have rather faced Cruz. Trump is difficult to engage because it is not quite clear what his positions are. Hilary is a very weak campaigner. Plus she has been out in public life so long that even if you support her, you can find positions that she has taken with which you disagree.

[WorldTravel69]

I love it.

He said that he is not accepting any money from the billionaires, that he is using his own money.

Now that he is the only one left to fight Hillary, the way I hear it, is that he will need the billionaires money so he can get his money back.

[Big Boss Man]

Better start thinking about a Trump-Sanders Ticket.

TL.

It seems to me that Trump and Sanders are talking right past each other.

Trump is going to put all the billionaires in charge of negotiating the trade deals or at least it is a regular part of his stump speech. If a Carl Icahn is at the table, nobody thinks he is going to take his cut. Meanwhile Bernie is arguing that the billionaires get too many breaks as it is (crony capitalism). What am I missing here?

My view is the opposite. Clinton needs to keep Sanders in the race because he is doing all the grassroots organizing like registering new voters. All the money that Sanders spends now will help Hilary in November not Trump. Nobody is rushing to register because of Hilary. Watch a Tad Devine interview and read between the lines.

Also remember that Clinton beat Obama in the California primary in 2008. Sanders will win a few more states but in total popular vote of Democratic voters, Clinton already has it cinched.

[TejanoLibre]

Deciding between Clinton and Trump is like trying to decide on poision or a gun to commit suicide.

Don B.

Better start thinking about a Trump-Sanders Ticket.

TL.

[Don B]

Now that The Trumpster has managed to singlehandedly knockout 16 Professional Politicians with a shitload of experience you should just deal with it and start to wonder who his choice could be for a running mate.

Survey Says :

Condoleezza Rice.

National Security, foreign policy and a skirted wild card.

Winning Ticket!

TL.

Deciding between Clinton and Trump is like trying to decide on poision or a gun to commit suicide.

Don B.

[Gandolf50]

It doesn't matter where you stand on Trump, this shit is funny and a great ad.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/CopaAmer...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

It seems like who ever did that ad has a hard on for Argentina. I cant say I blame him.... But I think having Messi in that ad could boomerang on then!

[TejanoLibre]

Now that The Trumpster has managed to singlehandedly knockout 16 Professional Politicians with a shitload of experience you should just deal with it and start to wonder who his choice could be for a running mate.

Survey Says :

Condoleezza Rice.

National Security, foreign policy and a skirted wild card.

Winning Ticket!

TL.